WORLDS BEST FRONT END : DCS – NOW IN INDIA

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SNV
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#1 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 02:00

Dear All,

It is a dream come true. Sound & Vision is now the exclusive India distributor of dCS, UK.

dCS, a world renowned serious hi-end front end brand, that makes the finest cd players – transport, dacs, clocks & samplers.

For people who are serious about their music, dCS provides a range of audiophile products that offer unrivalled performance and define the standard for digital music playback against which all others are measured.
The dCS audiophile range is designed and hand built in the UK to exact specifications, using the unique and patented Ring DAC technology to deliver the best listening experience there is.

The Scarlatti system is undoubtedly THE BEST CD PLAYER IN THE WORLD – PERIOD.

All new models are now available in 3 different variants :

SCARLATTI SYSTEM – TRANSPORT/DAC/MASTER CLOCK

PAGANINI SYSTEM – TRANSPORT/DAC/CLOCK

PUCCINI CD PLAYER.

The Scarlatti and Paganini are available as systems. Also individual units such as the dac, transport and clock are sold separately for clients to gradually upgrade.

For further information please log on –

www.dcsltd.co.uk, or alternatively email me on dcs@soundnvisionhifi.com

panditr
Ist häufiger hier

#2 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 04:45

Congratulations Jay, all the very best.....

Amp_Nut
Inventar

#3 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 04:51

WOW !

Aspirations can become a Reality.

ALL THE BEST

P.S:
Are any of these products available for audition at yr outlet in Pune ?

abhi.pani
Inventar

#4 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 06:19

Oh...terrific news that is..
I may not be able to afford it now but it definitely shows that things are progressing at least from the dealer's end.
Nice...SNV. All the best.

BTW, is there any relation between Audio Analogue and dCS ?? The model names seems to be clashing...sorry if I am sounding naive

bhagwan69
Inventar

#5 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 07:28

Amp_Nut schrieb:

Are any of these products available for audition at yr outlet in Pune ?

I am sure SNV will 'stock up' well;
The new audio showrooms will open soon - in Pune i.e.
We will go for the opening & sure do some 'listening'

Very Well Done !!

Great Product; I am sure you will succeed in your venture.

My best wishes are with you !!!

SNV
Stammgast

#6 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 11:38

panditr schrieb:

Congratulations Jay, all the very best.....

Dear Rahul,

Thank you for your kind wishes. I wish you all the best in your new venture.
I hope you make loads of moulah to buy a dCS from me.

Regards
SNV

SNV
Stammgast

#7 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 11:43

Amp_Nut schrieb:

WOW !

Aspirations can become a Reality.

ALL THE BEST

P.S:
Are any of these products available for audition at yr outlet in Pune ?

Dear Amp_Nut,

I am very excited to be appointed distributor for dCS. Its the best front end there is.
I am in UK as of now. I have just placed the order for the products. They have a long waiting period, especially for the Scarlatti system.
I should have the Puccini cd player and the Paganini system - transport/dac/clock by mid April. The Scarlatti will take longer.

Regards
SNV

SNV
Stammgast

#8 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 11:45

abhi.pani schrieb:

Dear abhi.pani,

It is big news. Thank you very much.

No relation whatsoever. The model names are similar though, but thats about it.

Regards
SNV

SNV
Stammgast

#9 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 11:49

bhagwan69 schrieb:

Dear Bhagwan69,

I intend to stock up the entire range. As mentioned, the Puccini and Paganini will be available by April and the Scarlatti will follow.
My showroom has unfortunately been delayed further though. It is likely to begin in May.

Many thanks for your kind wishes.

Regards
SNV

Arj
Inventar

#10 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 12:46

great work. and hope this works well for you !

BTW any chances of some NOS of the older ranges

SNV
Stammgast

#11 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 13:47

Arj schrieb:

great work. and hope this works well for you !

BTW any chances of some NOS of the older ranges ;)

Thanks Arj,

With respect to the older models, production has been completely stopped.
Of course those products will be serviced for another decade.
If you need anything in particular, do let me know. I could enquire with dCS.

Regards
SNV

ani
Stammgast

#12 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 15:49

Hi SNV,
Glad to know that you are getting demo equips of the range.
Wishing you success in all your ventures.

Looks like I must find a reason to visit Pune soon

Regards
Anil

SNV
Stammgast

#13 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 17:29

ani schrieb:

Hi SNV,
Glad to know that you are getting demo equips of the range.
Wishing you success in all your ventures.

Looks like I must find a reason to visit Pune soon

Regards
Anil

Dear Anil,

Thank you. You are most welcome to drop in to Pune, just dont make it too soon.
As mentioned, the products will be with me in April and the showroom will be ready in May.

Regards
SNV

SDhawan
Stammgast

#14 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 18:47

Jay,

Congratulations & All the Best !

Once your new showroom starts, I would love to comeover & tempt myself with your products (although I don't give in to the temptations very easily).

SNV
Stammgast

#15 erstellt: 28. Feb 2008, 19:27

SDhawan schrieb:

Jay,

Congratulations & All the Best !

Once your new showroom starts, I would love to comeover & tempt myself with your products (although I don't give in to the temptations very easily).

Dear Doc,

Thank you very much and you are most welcome to drop in.

I would love to demo the dCS gear to you and shall also try my best to tempt you into buying one

Regards
SNV

Amp_Nut
Inventar

#16 erstellt: 02. Mrz 2008, 12:53

A couple of days ago, I read a Very informative company writeup on dCS in the August 2007 ssue of Hi News.

dCS does have staff of Indian origion... Rav Bawa is the Sales Manager and Yatin Yadav in the service dept ...

Superb legacy or productsm,, and superb new products too...

Power to you, SNV.

SNV
Stammgast

#17 erstellt: 05. Mrz 2008, 08:16

Amp_Nut schrieb:

Superb legacy or productsm,, and superb new products too...

Power to you, SNV.

Dear Amp_Nut,

Well, Rav Bawa has infact been with the company for over a decade. He is great guy. Rav is ofcourse an Indian.
The company is now owned by the management who are serious enthusiasts, very passionate about what they do.
The new products are far better, simpler and reliable than the earlier models. Pretty much the best there is.
Thank you for your wishes sir.

Regards
SNV

SNV
Stammgast

#18 erstellt: 05. Mrz 2008, 10:55

Entry level model from dCS. The only one box solution.

dCS Puccini :

Upsampling CD/SACD Player with built-in dCS Ring DAC and 2 digital inputs.

Designed to drive a power amplifier directly.

http://dcsltd.co.uk/dcs_puccini.html

Regards
SNV

[Beitrag von SNV am 05. Mrz 2008, 10:56 bearbeitet]

SNV
Stammgast

#19 erstellt: 06. Mrz 2008, 08:06

Next one up is the dCS Paganini Transport/Dac/Clock system :

Paganini Transport - CD/SACD Transport with built-in DSD upsampling from CD.

http://dcsltd.co.uk/dcs_paganinii-transport.html

Paganini Dac - Stereo Digital to Analogue converter

http://dcsltd.co.uk/dcs_paganinii-dac.html

Paganini Clock - System Master Clock

http://dcsltd.co.uk/dcs_paganini-clock.html

For someone who wishes to upgrade gradually, he could opt for the Dac initially and then club it with the clock and finally ofcourse the transport.

Regards
SNV

SNV
Stammgast

#20 erstellt: 07. Mrz 2008, 14:39

And finally the flagship - dCS Scarlatti Transport/Dac/Master Clock system :

Scarlatti Transport - CD/SACD Transport with built-in DSD upsampling from CD

http://dcsltd.co.uk/dcs_scarlatti-transport.html

Scarlatti DAC - Stereo Digital to Analogue converter

http://dcsltd.co.uk/dcs_scarlatti-dac.html

Scarlatti Master Clock - System Master Clock

http://dcsltd.co.uk/dcs_scarlatti-clock.html

This system has been tagged "The best cd player in the world"

Regards
SNV

SNV
Stammgast

#21 erstellt: 15. Jul 2008, 13:25

Dear All,

Highlight of the month :

The Absolute Sound - Digital Issue, July/August 2008, #183

dCS made the cover of the latest edition of TAS!

Scarlatti DAC/Transport/Clock and Puccini were reviewed in a 7 page review that was the main feature of the digital edition.

The reviewer, Jonathan Valin, loved Scarlatti and Puccini so much he wrote:

"Well there you have it : The best digital sources I've yet heard"

"The Scarlatti, for example, is, by all standard repeatable measures, one of the lowest-distortion, highest-accuracy players money can buy."

"I might as well say it outright : The Scarlatti and Puccini are the best Cd Players I've yet heard."

"I could also say that, the dCS Scarlatti and Puccini are dead-center neutral in tonal balance, without a trace of digital darkness, and airier on top than any other CD players i've ever heard."

"They make vocalists and instrumentalists on first-rate cd & sacds sound 'in-the-room-with-you realistic' more often, more consistently, and much more persuasively than any other cd/sacd players."

Here is the link of the review :

http://soundnvisionh...carlatti_Puccini.pdf

Regards
SNV

blown_away
Neuling

#22 erstellt: 16. Jul 2008, 08:44

Dear SNV

was going throuigh the thread, wanted to know if your showroom is open? If yes, please provide the address, would lke to visit.

regards

David

SNV
Stammgast

#23 erstellt: 16. Jul 2008, 13:26

Dear David,

In all likelihood the new showroom is slated for a launch in September.

Although dCS products are available for demo to serious clients.
I am willing to offer in house demos to clients in Pune and Bombay.

Regards
SNV

bhagwan69
Inventar

#24 erstellt: 29. Jan 2010, 16:23

SNV has been most gracious to have sent a dCS Scarlati Up Sampler & DAC + Siltech Firewire to my place for a demo.
It should be here for 1 month.
Any audiophile interested in a 'demo' is most welcome.
Commercial aspects may be taken up with our forum member SNV.

Thanks !

Amp_Nut
Inventar

#25 erstellt: 30. Jan 2010, 05:18

Absolutely LEGENDARY components.

They are often the 'Standard' Front end at international Hi Fi Shows, where I have heard them on a variety of high end equipment.

I am REALLY looking forward to hearing them at Bhagwan69's place.

bhagwan69
Inventar

#26 erstellt: 30. Jan 2010, 07:39

Amp_Nut schrieb:

I am REALLY looking forward to hearing them at Bhagwan69's place.

Hello AN !

Most welcome;
Anyday.

Regards,

Mazher

p.s. No Bass in Grandma's track, but rest may be present... my place cannot play the low bass - sorry. I tried. Even the subs let me down.

Amp_Nut
Inventar

#27 erstellt: 30. Jan 2010, 14:28

bhagwan69
Inventar

#28 erstellt: 26. Feb 2010, 18:35

http://www.avguide.c...tas-200?src=Playback

square_wave
Inventar

#29 erstellt: 01. Mrz 2010, 06:57

bhagwan69 schrieb:

Amp_Nut schrieb:

I am REALLY looking forward to hearing them at Bhagwan69's place.

Hello AN !

Most welcome;
Anyday.

Regards,

Mazher

p.s. No Bass in Grandma's track, but rest may be present... my place cannot play the low bass - sorry. I tried. Even the subs let me down. :cut

I could very easily discern this bass in Abhi's ATC loudspeakers

Amp_Nut
Inventar

#30 erstellt: 01. Mrz 2010, 09:11

Cool !

I believe that the bass brings in a huge plus in terms of foot tapping Rythmn

[Beitrag von Amp_Nut am 01. Mrz 2010, 09:12 bearbeitet]

bhagwan69
Inventar

#31 erstellt: 01. Mrz 2010, 12:39

Abhi Excellent !!

square_wave wrote

I could very easily discern this bass in Abhi's ATC loudspeakers

Way to Go !

Super.

Very very few set ups can actually reproduce that bass. I have not heard it on many. If the ATC can do it, it is commendable.

[Beitrag von bhagwan69 am 01. Mrz 2010, 14:12 bearbeitet]

square_wave
Inventar

#32 erstellt: 01. Mrz 2010, 14:07

It was more of a tactile feeling. It could be heard very faintly in the background though. Makes your foot tap in tune. Arj was there with me. Maybe he could chime in as well

abhi.pani
Inventar

#33 erstellt: 01. Mrz 2010, 15:26

square_wave schrieb:

It was more of a tactile feeling. It could be heard very faintly in the background though. Makes your foot tap in tune. Arj was there with me. Maybe he could chime in as well :)

Yea, that was more like it. In the background, setting the tune. It was very interesting but I did not like the song

Arj
Inventar

#34 erstellt: 01. Mrz 2010, 17:21

square_wave schrieb:

It was more of a tactile feeling. It could be heard very faintly in the background though. Makes your foot tap in tune. Arj was there with me. Maybe he could chime in as well :)

well it was in its own very small but clear voice chiming its presence

..but this is the first time i actually have "felt" its presence. in my setup it refuses to rear its head

Amp_Nut
Inventar

#35 erstellt: 02. Mrz 2010, 03:51

I could very easily discern this bass in Abhi's ATC loudspeakers

Abhi, welcome to the 1st Octave club !

abhi.pani
Inventar

#36 erstellt: 02. Mrz 2010, 06:07

Amp_Nut schrieb:

I could very easily discern this bass in Abhi's ATC loudspeakers

Abhi, welcome to the 1st Octave club ! ;)

bhagwan69
Inventar

#37 erstellt: 02. Mrz 2010, 09:04

Amp_Nut schrieb:

I could very easily discern this bass in Abhi's ATC loudspeakers

Abhi, welcome to the 1st Octave club ! ;)

Sad - but I will never be a member of that club.
The 'bass' plays in the next room - but not in my listening position. The 2 subs are of no use - just cannot give the spl to me.

It is so 'distinct' in AN's place & just so 'faint' in mine that it does not deserve a mention.

I envy you guys - 1st Octave Club - nice name - AN !!

Arj
Inventar

#38 erstellt: 02. Mrz 2010, 09:18

even if you move the Subs far away from your listening position ?

bhagwan69
Inventar

#39 erstellt: 02. Mrz 2010, 09:58

Arj schrieb:

even if you move the Subs far away from your listening position ?

Sir,
I did not understand what you ment;

None the less, in my case it is like salt in the food, too much comes in the way & too little keeps you wanting more.

The 'trick' is to make the sub play but disappear & trust me that is very very [very] again] difficult to do.
If I turn it up - sure the bass in the Grandma's track comes into audible range, however it overpowers all else & that cannot be the 'setting'
When I set it for all other kinds of music - sure the bass in that track is there - but it is loudest and most audible opposite to my Bathroom Door - opposite the fridge !! That is the delima.....

So, I am constantly compromising some where...

Arj
Inventar

#40 erstellt: 02. Mrz 2010, 11:35

Oh..i think i get the problem better. Maybe some form of euqalisation below 50 hz might work ?

bhagwan69
Inventar

#41 erstellt: 02. Mrz 2010, 18:30

Arj schrieb:

Oh..i think i get the problem better. Maybe some form of euqalisation below 50 hz might work ?

Thied that - had used the Holm.
Worked well - but the DAC's sq was not up to the mark, so had to let it go.
Any form of passive eq too does not help.
None of the EQ's are 'audiophile' grade.
Also experimented with DEQX - was not successful - have that for sale too.
This is a damn difficult task - I do not know how AN is able to manage it !! Hats off to him for his effort & success.....

abhi.pani
Inventar

#42 erstellt: 02. Mrz 2010, 18:48

I think its easier to setup a tuned, integrated speaker like what AN has in a room than to try and integrate two different speakers in the same room and play as accurately as we all aspire to.

Arj
Inventar

#43 erstellt: 03. Mrz 2010, 04:47

Bhagwan, have you tried Corner placements for the Subs as well ? you get a 6-9db boost there.

Manek
Inventar

#44 erstellt: 03. Mrz 2010, 05:10

Guys,

Grandma's hands by livingston taylor has always been know as one with an "A capella" arrangement,
without the use of musical instruments.
I thought the manger cd has that version which I think is also the chesky.

Is there a version with a bass ?

Manek

bhagwan69
Inventar

#45 erstellt: 03. Mrz 2010, 07:31

abhi.pani schrieb:

I think its easier to setup a tuned, integrated speaker like what AN has in a room than to try and integrate two different speakers in the same room and play as accurately as we all aspire to.

100 % correct !!

Amp_Nut
Inventar

#46 erstellt: 03. Mrz 2010, 08:03

bhagwan69 said

Thied that - had used the Holm.
Worked well - but the DAC's sq was not up to the mark, so had to let it go.
Any form of passive eq too does not help.
None of the EQ's are 'audiophile' grade.
Also experimented with DEQX - was not successful - have that for sale too.
This is a damn difficult task - I do not know how AN is able to manage it !! Hats off to him for his effort & success.....

Sir, you are Very kind

but ofcourse my large speakers in a mall room are far from ideal, and the set up has its limitations. Fortunately for me, I have been able to achieve a sound that I find enjoyable and satisfying.

abhi.pani wrote:
I think its easier to setup a tuned, integrated speaker like what AN has in a room than to try and integrate two different speakers in the same room and play as accurately as we all aspire to.

I agree with you you, Abhi. I realised that a while ago, when I had the smaller Sonus Faber Extremas. Its VERY diffucult to integrate another manufacturer's sub. The system then lyalks in 2 different tongues. However, a sub from the SAME manufacturer is a different story, and there have been many such designs, probably inspired by the Wilson Watt - Puppys.

Separate subs also give the verslity to tone down the LF to better suit the room's LF boost. I have done that by placing a small external resistor in the LF section of my speaker, since my speakers provide separate terminals for the LF.

That said, I do feel that Bhagwans use of TWO subs, in his relatively small room, integrate BEAUTIFULLY well with his speaker, even though the brands of the speakers and subs are Completely different. In fact they do not sound like there is a sub at all, and THAT is the way it should be.

bhagwan69
Inventar

#47 erstellt: 03. Mrz 2010, 09:59

Arj schrieb:

Bhagwan, have you tried Corner placements for the Subs as well ? you get a 6-9db boost there.

SPL is not the problem;
That is very very easy to sort.

The issue is on 2 fronts;

a]
Speed & Alignment

b]
Not needing too much - most of the time

Rajiv
Neuling

#48 erstellt: 07. Mrz 2010, 04:23

Hi Manek,

From a reveiw of the Focal 27V2 subwoofer driver.

Grandma’s Hands (Livingston Taylor)

This track is approximately a little under 2 minutes long, with Livingston and his back-up vocals singing soulfully all throughout. It’s purely a vocal track, with its only instrument being the finger snaps heard all throughout the track. This is mainly a test for midrange purity, but it can be used to test low-frequency extensions as well.

In most good systems, faint but heavy foot stomps can be heard all throughout the track, and the 27V2 definitely shined on this track. The foot stomps can be heard very clearly, and once Livingston pauses to catch his breath, the foot stomps can be heard much more clearly. I was impressed on this, with the sub exhibiting great bass reproduction.

Regards
Rajiv

Arj
Inventar

#49 erstellt: 07. Mrz 2010, 04:59

Thank Rajiv..i misunderstood the Bass to be a really low Double Bass. this makes a lot more sense.. I think the sound that i heard at Abhis DID sound like Foot stomps.

Manek
Inventar

#50 erstellt: 07. Mrz 2010, 13:09

Foot stomp ?

Would a foot stomp be lower than 50hz? Unless its done on a raised wooden floor with a large avity under it.

A foot stomp is possible provided mikes were placed close to floor.

Ampnut, is it a foot stomp that you hear ?

Manek

abhi.pani
Inventar

#51 erstellt: 07. Mrz 2010, 14:29

It definitely sounded like foot stomps rather than any instrument and Manek, your guess could very well be right as the sound was very close to foot hitting on wooden floor and the mike placed at a location where it can pick the deep lower harmonics of the sound.