new home theatre

That's right Benks, 14 ft from the screen would give you a diagonal size of 94 inches. If you find that to be too big you can go closer, to get about 78 inches.

Since you plan to mount it on the ceiling, it wont interfere with your seating, the way it does with mine.

By wiring, I guess you mean the cable connecting the DVD player to the projector. RGB gives the best picture quality, but that would entail 3 runs of cable, so you may also check out S-Video, depending upon your budget. You can run it in a conduit from behind your rack to the ceiling and then across the ceiling to where you propose to mount the projector. Based on your room dimensions, you would need between 20 to 26 feet of cable. You will also need an electrical plug point on the ceiling.

Shall revert on the prices here, but do check out the grey market prices there.

thanks for the info big_ears.
regarding the grey market for Projectors i have not a single clue. Maybe the other bangaloreans can help me out in this regard. would appreciate if u can give me the prices in Dubai though.
Now if i decide move the projector in front then i have to do so before the ceiling stand is installed, right?
was just checking out the prices of the cables that i will need for this....S-video is the cheapest option at arnd 40 to 60 $ for a good quality one of 25 feet in length.
likewise a component cable of the same lenght costs anywhere from 230$ and 350 $.
also the size of the conduit for a component cable will be quite large...not so for a s-video cable. this is my immedaite concern cause i have to give the modified electrical drawings to the electrical enggineer.
any suggestions?
Cheers,
Ben

also , my DVD player has Progressive scanning only in component video mode. do projectors come with progressive scanning( i think i may have made a basic fundemantal mistake by askin gthis question).
Cheers,
Ben

oki.ppl..i checked out jbl..harmon..hitachi..

i saw the harman kardon AVR 330(7.1 av receiver) with a 5.1 speaker( scs 200.5) setup for 65K..it sounded nice

i also checked out hitachi PJ-TX100 projector...for 1.35lacs...

and a HP projector ep7122 (L1751A)...for 1.25 lacs..

now tell me how to proceed ...

i checked out the avr 330 on the net..it sayw 7 X 55..is tht 55 RMS ...isnt it too less ... i dont know

hey Kewl, H/K amps are always underated.
don't worry 55 watts is more than enough power to bring ur house down and ur neighbours banging on ur door.
The power rating is with respect to all channels driven while most manufacturers post specs of a single channel driven or with the rating at a particular freq and not across the entire freq range.
Cheers,
Ben

p.s: even thoiugh H/K receivers are good, i would suggest u take a look at the Denon and the Yamaha models thast i have mentioned.

hmm...thnx.. and were wud i be able to c the denon and yamaha ones..if anyone has ne idea !!!

well kewl what you have said is that you listen to music alot and if that is the case I think even you want to use DVD audio.

for DVD audio then you need to have excellent speakers for that so I suggest you the speakers which has good freq extension so that you can enjoy the true potential of your system. DVD audio will swing alot in the upper freq region as well so I suggest to go with my speakers where the frequency extension is excellent along with the quality.

well check up this link for the pic of the speaker

http://img144.echo.cx/my.php?image=pic7qw.jpg

Well the total cost of the surround speaker system that i can provide is for 5.1 setup

5 speakers each speaker will be arround Rs 9250 so for the complete 5 speaker set you will get price arround Rs 46,000 Its very nice price to get speakers of this kind just get a powerful VELODYNE subwoofer and then you can easily blow the windows with ultimate surround exp One of my customer is ready for these speakers for surround setup.

For details of surround speakers check this>>>

specifications are:

Over all freq response 37Hz to 30KHz
Nominal impedence is 8ohms
Recommended amplifier power min 40watts into 8 ohms per channel
Details:

Tweeter:
1 inch textile dome tweeter with coated fabric diaphram
with low damping ferrow fluid
rated at 100 RMS nominal
long term max power 200watts
short term max power 400watts

Midbass:
6.5 inch midbass with mineral filled polycone
High damping rubber surround
with Magnesium Basket
power ratings of this midbass
40 RMS nominal
long term max power 150watts
short term max power 350watts

Crossover:
first order 2 way crossover with l pad attenuator
High quality polypropelene capacitors
Heavy guage inductors for higher power handling capability

Enclosure:
Air tight enclosure with 3/4 inch MDF and maple finishing
Finishing also available in many kinds.

Gold plated connectors for the wires.

Inside the cabinet:
Gold plated lugs for connecting the drivers for high conductivity
complete internal wiring is done with heavy guage oxygen free cables for long life without corrosion of the wires.

price: expecting about
Rs.18,500 per pair

The generation is going towards DVD audio so go for speakers which can use your DVD audio.

Even the movie experience will be amazing.

For further detials mail me to sandeepsonic2006@yahoo.com

hmm..will c

and i wont be listnin to much of music on this system...coz this room is in my basement..were i will go only for movies...

but will keep these speakers in mind.,.

avr 330 matches with my speakers power. 55watts willbe more than sufficient to any home theater system.

If you want earth shattering sound improve your subwoofer. It will kick out the sound. But many peoples opinion regarding surround sound is that. The movie experience will be amazing with the speakers which are used at optimum volume.

I know one guy with his ht setup who uses his surrounds at max of 25 RMS He says I cant bear the sound from surround channnel beyond this. He uses his subwoofer to shake the room
not the surround.

ok tellme kewl how about your opinion about my speakers..

they look gud...

will check out other speakers and then make a decision

Hey man Sandeep,
cool it dude. u don't need to hard sell ur products. i mean the man has not even got a chance to look at the product upfront let alone listen to it.
I see that lately u r pushing ur products on this forum. I strongly advise that u desist and let people make their desicions. U don't need to make it obvious but u can use the PM feature to appraise people of ur products.
Don't be like all the audio people that we come across in every showroom. think abt it.
Cheers,
Ben

Kewl, i would suggest that u look at Definitive technology's speakers or any other company's dipole speakers.
theya re the recommemded speaker config for surrounds by THX.
also , FYI the surrounds need to be inconspicuous. They should'nt over power the front speakers.
they should kick in only when the material(DVD software) calls for it.
Go for a REL subwoofer. Better than a Velodyne but is considered premium. the velodyne would offer better VFM for sure.
Cheers,
Ben
p.s:the hitachi projector u have seen is not DLP but LCD type. suggest u go for DLP since u will be using it for HT.

ok ben I was just suggesting him man.....hmmm well nothing more than that..

what do u say regarding THX? just a seal now a days..

at LUCAS they record using wilson audios,bryston amps etc and here we listen in some lowend speaker which says that the sound is exact like what has been recorded at LUCAS.... hmmm THX ...THX... what the hell this is now a days..THX..

lets take practical case ROTEL processors are far nice than the Denons or so.. but why not ROTEL go for THX certification...

Now a days its like buy an get sealed.....

If anybody wants real LUCAS THX certification then go for all ultra highend stuff like this and then we have to call it THX till then nothing is THX.

i am only referring to the kind of speakers the THX company recommends. it may be mathematical but the desicion is personal preference . only giving him the facts. since kewl is loofing for a dedicated HT i was thinking a dipole or a bipole would give him a better surround effect while at the same time increasing the sweet spot area.
Cheers,
Ben

and don't condemn THX. yes it is only a certification but it is there for a reason and it is there for a measurement of standards.
Cheers,
Ben

p.s: George Lucas is a genius and u are not.

hmm ben i will accept regarding the sweetspot area increment but not the THX certification

well you know everyting ben and even after tat ur telling like this..

what does actual THX mean..

If thats the case there are PC speakers with THX certification.. what do u say about this...

THX standards with pc speakers??? great THX...

hey man...do u wnat me to give u a lesson in sound formats and standards.
Just go to any decent site which caters to HT and u will find the info that u are asking for.

no ben im not telling you that you dont know that...
You are one of the highly intellecual guy on this forum with very vast knowledge...

my opinion is just to tell you regarding the THX nothing more than that...

I know that you even know how the sound get processed inside the system...Im sure ..

I understood regarding your knowledge in this hifi.. dont worry man i opinion was not tat...

cool man..cool...

ben do u know anybody dealing with Teflon caps in B`lore

Hey man , u don't need to patronise me. and no, i don't know that much. i am humbled everytime i start browsing. there is so much to learn. maybe i have some ( some is the operative word) technical knowlegde but i don't know how useful that is.....or how significant that is...
anyeway...i apologise for hijacing this post.
over to u Kewl..
or to big_ears who can provide us a respite from the almost daily squabbles.
Cheers,
Ben

No man sonic,
i was hoping that u knew where i could procure them for my project as well.
Let me know if u find a source.
Cheers,
Ben

I know once source called as vcap from US but each cap with 1uf 250v costs about Rs 15,000

ben what softwares do u have?
Do u have any room acoustics software?
with some 3d plots

oki..ben
i asked the hitahci person ..he told me tht this is the only model of projector for HT's.. if you know does hitachi have a projector with DLP..

Actually whts DLP...i dont know ..just know tht its sum new technology....

and regarding the speakers where can i c them ...i put up in delhi... once i see tham and their prices i can make a better decision... thnx

hey kewl,
why dont yu check out marantz, bostona nd nakamichi in the mean time- its beside the panchasheel flyover- just as yu start from the chirag delhi side-check this link for the above

http://www.shardamotor.com/ProContactus.htm

also check out jbl-harmon in gk1 and onkyo in cr park, i guess yu wud have an opinion by the time yu are thru with all of this-and with yur kinda budget people wud be more than happy to show all their wares ..

anirvan

personallyu can pass Nakamichi. it is moreof a lifestyle product but is good nonetheless.
But u pay a premium for it.
Boston acoustics is good.
Check it out.
regarding the projector try the Hitachi model that i have mentioned-CPX-328.
coming to the receiver, the yamaha Rx-V2500 is among the best buys in that category. however, try to fit the Denon-3805 in ur budget if u can.
cheers,
Ben


p.s:DLp is a new chip designed by Texas Instruments . Do a google search on it or go to projectorcentral.com for all info on projectors.
Try the Infocus projectors too. they have a longer lamp life(generally).

Ben I need some information regarding these surround processors..

can u give me the list of av processors not the av receivers.

what I mean to say is that the av receivers come with max freq will be just 20khz but i want more than that like about 40khz or +

I need just the processor and I will add the amplifiers by myself.

and also the prices

hey ben,

talking about total home theatre packages
there was some scheme going on here in delhi hitachi + bose combos- how good do yu think wud they be???

apart from getting matched/blended systems-

regs
anirvan

Hitachi for display is really good. but for Ht Bose sucks big time. had the first hand experience myself. could'nt stand to hear them for more than 10 minutes.
I would suggest that he try the Quad setup or a KEf speaker setup with a Rel sub to do the growling.
Cheers,
Ben

hey anivaran i chkd out jbl\HK.... i looked at harman kardon AVR330 with jbl SCS200.5 ... a 5.1 speaker system for 65K...it sounded nice..
i also went to onkyo.. saw their systems the 570 and 670..but not interested in them coz i would have to change the receiver if i wanna upgrade to 6 or 7.1.. so i also asked for their 7.1 602 for 36000 and 702 for 48000... so tell me ...


i also went to hitachi .. i saw their projector.. the latest model PJ-Tx100..but tht is not DLP... and he told me tht that is the only model available for HT... and regarding CPX-328.. he was like tht is a really old model.. !!
and were wud i be able to c the kef speakers !!..thankxx

yeah it is an ol dmodel but a very good and high end one.
i thought that maybe u could get one for a discount if he still had a piece.
in that case i suggest u take big_ears opinion and go for Infocus.
i think the JBL guys themselves deal in Infocus projectors.
also the JBL speaker system ur mentioning abt will in no way be sufficient and also for ur budget u could frankly do a lot better.
Cheers,
Ben

hmm..okie..i will check out the cpx328..but is tht a dlp one !!...
and which speaker system shud i go for in the range of 40K..... including 5 speakers and woofer...

and now the budget has tightened a lil..come down to..2.5 max... so now there a lil..prob..

If the budget is 2.5 lakh i still say u invest abt 1.5 lakh on the sound sytem and abt 80k on the Projector and accessories and abt 20 k on the DVD player.
Cheers,
Ben
and yes the 328 is a DLP one.

oki..ben..i checkd out with hitachi showroom in delhi ..they told me tht cpx-328 is a discontinued model..and they do not have one..
but he told me about NEC ... HT410 model which is DLp for 1.35lac ..

and regarding the dvd player rite now i wud like to spend 5-6k for a philips one..and on display abt 1.4lac...so 1 lac is left for sound !! ..

thanks

ok Kewl, thata's still a good budget to work with.
Yeah the Phillips one is pretty good for 5-6k.
Excellent VFM.
Well the projector u have said , the NEC is good but not worth the money.
if u can get it from Dubai or from the US u will save abt 70 to 80 k at least!.
it retails for 1200$ in the US.
Cheers,
Ben

hmm..ben u r rite..but if i get it from us...wht abt the warranty..like do they hav international warraties..and do the nec ppl in india accept tht international warranty.!!

and also if you know where would i be able to see infocus projectors..if you have ne idea abt its dealers or sumthin !!!

thnx

hey..i checked out infocus projectors online...and they seem to be quiet expensive... like the SP5700..which is their lowest model with DLP is for 2000USD or arnd 88k..and in india tht wud be easily over 1.5lac..

also one more thing... how will be samsung's DLP t.v. (SP61L3) its for 2.75lacs...and also lg 60: projection TV..

your comments please

hello ppl..replies please...

i checked out yamaha rcvrs...

now i think i should go for a gud 6.1 receiver only.... like i chked out the RX-V550 for 21k ( +12.5% VAt)..
now pls let me know a 5.1 or 6.1 complete speaker system..so that i can proceed !!

online i saw the Harman Kardon 5.1 system HKTS14...with a 200W RMS woofer...it was nice ..but i talked with the JBL ppl ..the showroom in g,k.1..and they were like we dont import tht model..so not available...

thanks

you just give me your mail address I will send the complete details. I can give you the perfect solution that you might have never expected.

kewl2000@gmail.com

thanks

kewl I have sent mail to you just check it out.

Go to the nearest Jamo Showroom.....I think you will get something you would really like.... then you can move on to compare other products to them....

Also try to find out if Definitive Technology is available there....

for the budget u have...for HT(only for HT) go for the Def tech or the Jbl.
nothing to beat them in this sphere.
try the floorstanding bipoles of the Def Tech(they come with active subwoofers) and their bipole surrounds(also with built in subs). impossible to beat them for the asking price.
Cheers,
Ben

I think JBL would be too harsh considering the small room size.....

I have auditioned Jamo's HT systems, found it wonderful....but it is not the exact VFM stuff...they are bit on the expensive side...

But Definitive should be good either as their reviews says....