Marantz + Canton

Hey ooo!

This should be moved into the surround-category, I think one of the moderators will so that.

And now I have a new problem: I have to change the TV set to match the DVD Player and everything else and I don't have any ideea what to choose.

Why do you think you have to change your TV? If it has a SCART-in (or s-video in), there's no problem to connect it with your dvd-player.

The other components:
Marantz SR5300 sounds good, the dvd-player, too (I'll try to find something about them), but why do you need a cassette deck? You still got cassettes?

The speakers: Don't you think the rear ones are a bit too small? I would prefer (if I'd use canton) a 101 (or bigger).

For what do you want to use your new set? Cinema only? Or stereo / surround music, too (I guess yes)?

Now I'll take a look if I find some comments about your components. Personally I've just heard the marantz, which is a good choice, in my eyes.

Cheers.

Hi Frank

Indeed they "moved" me.

Yes my TV has a scart-in but I hear that in order to take advantage of the DVD's features it will be best to switch to HDTV as I have an analog TV.

From the reviews I managed to find, I understood that SR5300 is a very good one, the DV430 is too new and there are not enough infos on the matter, but the seller is raving about it.
The tape beck, yes, I have a lot of tapes and I'm beeing a bit nostalgic.
The back speakers the guy in the shop told me is needed only for some effects and the PLUS XS even if they are small, are very effective.
I want to have it all ! Meaning I want to hear well all kinds of music, to watch movies and also TV.

Hey!

Why don't you try it with your old tv, first? If the picture is good enough, why spend more money than needed?

I once had many tapes but, I think about 8 years ago, I changed to cds.

Yes, the rear speakers are for effects, but when you have very loud or massive effects your experience might not be as in cinema. But I think it would be the best to audition (ask your dealer if he would let you listen to your complete set, that might be the best) them with a good film, then you can see, if they are good enough.

The floorstanding speakers are a good choice for music, the small rears aren't needed that much (there are some tracks, where the complete sound comes from the rear, that wouldn't sound so good, but these are really rare). And for cinema (when the subwoofer is good) the small ones should be good, too.
I'd say (if the rear speakers are as good as your dealers tells) your set is a good choice!

Maybe someone else knows any of the components and can give a additional comment?

Good evening,

ooo, I think that's a good set you've choosen.
I think, rear speakers do not have to be so strong, better spend more money for the front speakers so your stereo music is better and of course most of the cinema sounds comes from the front, too.
But with smaller, one should have a powerfull subwoofer, cause most rear effects contain low frequencies.

I've once heard the front speakers and I'd guess the rear and center should do it, too.

So long.

Good morning

Thanks for your inputs. It's really nice to know someone is there to ask your question and not sell you something.
Yesterday afternoon I've decided to go to another dealer and hear some other loudspeakers also, as CANTON is a German brand and I've heard they sound a little bit too Karajan directing walses at Vienna Opera House.
So first i've heard some TANNOYs which were good, but after that I've heard MISSION and it was another story and of course another price.
If the first time I've posted my message on the forum I was confused, now I'm lost. The Bright side is that I've discovered that I have an ear that can pick up differencies and plunge myself straight to HIFI hell!

I did some research on the HDTVs also and I have also a good excuse to buy a new one: my mother in law's just "died" yesterday and it is a good opportunity to give my old TV to her.
The problem is that romanian market is not that rich and my choices are limited, so I will see only the Flat Screen ones at 100 Hz.

Talk to you later

Good evening again,

of course you should listen to other speakers, too.
Mission was good but a bit to expensive?
Do you think the Tannoy's were better than he Canton set?

But please try to listen to the cantons, too, because some dealers tell you stories to make you buy at their store, not at the other one (or did you already?).

Giving away your old tv to your mother in law is a good idea

I don't know the romanian market, what brands are available?

Hi Scott

Actually the CANTON I never listened. The shop it's a very classy one and the configuration they had ready was with the top CANTON speakers and they sounded good, but those ones are extremely expensive.
I didn't buy anything yet, but actually I'm in a little bit of hurry, because the new apartment is about to be ready and I still have to design the stand for all this stuff.
Actually, you can find a lot of brands but not the peak models. The real problem is that sellers are paid very little, so usually they don't care to know details about the products they are selling.
For instance, yesterday evening when looking for the TV I was trying to find out if it is at least HDTV ready and has progressive scan and the guy was insisting that the set had PIP !

Hello ooo,

that's the problem with many dealers, they show you the top speakers and tell you the others are quite as good.
But you should ask the dealer if you can audition your set (at least, you should listen to the front speakers!!!).

If the tv-guys do not know anything about the tvs they sell (and their price is good), go into the internet to find out the features (or ask here ).


So long, time to finish work and go home

Thanks Scott

Have a nice afternoon.
I'm just begining my day of work, so....
Today I will try to go again to the shop and listen to the CANTONs, which actually I liked the design too.

Have fun

Hello,

happy working and I hope you can audition your canton speakers!

Hey!

scott has told you what I would have told you ...

I hope you can audition the cantons.

Hello

Actually I've got away from the office today and ask the guys to put on my CANTONs and I'm happy to tell you they sound great !
I even replaced the small back one and I chose from the same family the LE102 and the center too LE 105 CM.
I even had a nice discount from the fancy shop only by showing the prices I've got from another shop.
In short, I'm feeling rather happy at this moment.

As for the TV I've chosen a flat screen from Sony KV-29FX66k , but surprise: I cannot find the model on normal sites, only on russian or slaves sites !!!
This is a surprise because I think they manufacture these models only for Eastern Europe and I think it's not fair.

Hey!

I'm glad you've found a good set.


You see! Don't believe another dealer if you haven't heard the speakers. Now you know they sound really good.

With the bigger rears and center home cinema will be better and now I think even musical "surround-recordings" will sound good (because the rears now have a good size).

I think that was good choice to replace them (did you hear the smaller and the bigger rear ones?)

Maybe the tv just got another product-id for eastern europe?

I was feeling very happy when I actually heard the speakers and I also was happy because I've askee for your help.
I heard only the new back speakers and the new center, but I really think the set is more balanced like this and all speakers are from the same serie which I understood is almost the perfect combination.
After work I will go to pay 30% to seal the deal.

Maybe you are right, but how can I know which is the "normal" product-id ?
I was just trying to find out some more technical details as resolution or type of scan (progressive or interlaced).

Hey again,

you already heard the front speakers?
If not, try to do this before buying them.

(If that's not possible and the new rears are that good, the floorstanding ones should be better)

Maybe an email to sony could solve this.
Or you find another non-east-europe tv that look alike and has the same features.

Hello ooo!

Congratulations!
As you already said this new set should play together much better so I hope you'll have much fun with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe frank is right about the tv and sony does sell a tv with two (or more) different product-ids

Good morning

I'm sorry that yesterday I had to leave in a hurry and never get the chance to say good bye.
As I told you, I've listened to the front ones and they sound very good. Actually the same shop is selling also McIntosh and someone wanted to litsten to the LS360 front and I have to admit I was speachless !!
Hey, those speakers are the real deal indeed. Unfortunately they cost USD5,000 a piece, which is way off my plate. But if you can it will be very nice to hear them.
Before buying I've indeed asked to listen again to the whole package and they sound very good. They are a little big for the room in which I intend to put them, but I'm hoping to build a new house in the five years to come, so I think they will fit there too.

The problem with the tvs is that a lot a models look alike but they have different features and different prices, sio is not too much use. I'm getting a little tired too, so I will go with my pick and hope it's good. Actually is better than my old one and is at 100 Hz, so it should do it.

Bye

Hey!

So at least you could listen to everything! That's good!

Room size shouldn't be a problem, it's better having a system which is too strong for your room rather than a room that is too big for your system.

Canton LS360? I can't find them at the canton homepage

I hope you'll get a good tv
And I hope you won't leave us after having bought your system

Cheers

Hi

I'm sorry that on Friday I was away from the office, actually out of Bucharest on business.

The LS360 are from McIntosh http://www.mcintoshlabs.com and they are really something !!! Now, I have something to dream about for the next 10 years.
The problem is that I also heard another set of front Cantons, which sounded better than mine and now I'm restless again thinking to switch (for the last time) to those.
I'm really busy trying to finish up the apartment so I can move and install all the goodies we've been talking about those days.

Bye everyone and have a nice week. I hope I'll hear from you soon.

Oana

Hello ooo,

I haven't heard mcIntosh speakers yet, but maybe when I find a dealer I should try to listen to them.

If you think the other front cantons are really better then change them. Nothing is worse than not changing such a "small" thing and getting mad on that for the next years.

Have a nice week, too!

Hello

The "small" thing will cost ne an extra USD500 ! But I'm really gonna do it. The only problem is that on Thursday I've signed the contract and now I will have to modify it. The dealer should be happy he's getting some extra money from me, so this afternoon I will know. After that I will stop and be happy with what I got, because otherwise, the sky is the limit !!!
The problem is that more you listen, more you want. But once in my home, I will not have "others" to compare mine with.

ooo, better spend 500 additional dollars now. you won't get these speakers for $500 in a year or two, when you start thinking: man the other speakers were great! but mine?
so if that ain't a problem for you to spend $500 more, do it!
i once heard mcintosh speakers they are very good but i think for their price you can get other better speakers.

Thanks Walter

Actually I did order the new speakers. But for now I will stop !
I can hardly wait to bring them home and listen some great music.
The McIntosh speakers really sounded breathtaking. If you have the chance, go listen and tell us about it. I really want to hear your opinion as I'm not very "in tune" with this world.

See you soon
Oana

Hello ooo,


I hope you'll have VERY MUCH fun with you new set including the better stereo speakers (by the way: which speakers?).


And I'll try to listen to some mcintosh speakers.

So long

Hi Scott

AS I've stated I can hardly wait to chase away the workers from my new apartment to finally install my sistem and listen to it.
The new speakers are from CANTON also, but they are the ERGO 902 DC model. I understood that because they have aluminium membranes they are a different class, but leaving all the technical details apart, they sound very round.

Go listen to the McIntosh and tell me about it. They also manufacture lamps amplifiers, which I understood are the nec plus ultra of HiFi and the funny thing about the amplifiers is they weight 47 KGS

Bye
Oana

ergo 902 dc, thats a good one! i think you'll have very much fun with your new speaker set!

Hello,

sledgehammer was a bit faster
But I think just the same, you'll have much fun with your new set. Haven't heard your new front speaker yet but it looks great

See you!


So long

Hy everyone

Thanks for your remarks. Now the only thing I have to do is to wait for the moment I get to install then at home and make them play.
I will keep you posted, even if it will take a week or so more.

Thanks again for your advices
Have a nice one

Oana

Hey!
Happy waiting!

Hy everybody

I'm back !
Sorry it took so long, but with a new house, new HIFI system, there were a lot of "new" to swallow !
Now I ca tell you that my system sounds.....FUNTASTIC !!!
The problem now is that the neighbors already wrote me a letter to temper my audiophile passion, because the only thing they hear are thumps from the ceiling. I'm very sorry for them, because I really listen to sweet music (which they don't hear).
I also got me a Marant TT42 turntable and I have to tell you that there are sounds that you will never hear from a digital recording. It's great. The power gives me so much purity even at very low listening levels.
I'm still dreaming at the McIntoses, but since I don't have them in the same room with mines I begin to forget the difference.

Hope to hear from you all soon,
Oana

hey ooo, could you tell me what system it was? which canton speakers did you get ? that discussion was a bit confusing so I dont get which speakers you bought.

Hi

Sorry that my answer took so long, but in Romania we had a long week-end due to national holyday. As is stated in my profile, here is the system that I've finally bought:

MARANTZ SR5300 A/V RECEIVER, DV4300 DVD PLAYER AND SD4050 DOUBLE CASSSETTE DECK, MARANTZ TT42 TURNTABLE
CANTON LOUDSPEAKERS 2 X ERGO902DC, 2 X LE102, LE105CM AND AS25SC SUBWOOFER.

"See" you
Oana

hey ooo, as i see youve got much fun with your new equipment. and thats how it shuod be!
i'm a bit surprised youre using a turntable but thats great!

Hi Walter

Actually, I got a similar question from the Forum, when I announced that I want the double deck.
Now you must understand that me and my husband are in our early 40's and part of our teens is on records and cassettes. First getting all this recordings in communist Romania was not an easy task and secondly is like parting with our youth, which really we don't want to do.
Another reason is that I not too fond of digital recordings, who seam to me as beeing cold and without depth.
There are also some exceptions of DTS recordings that I got to listen to.

Oana

Hey!
Turntables are something old. That's true. But they are good stuff, too! I had one until last summer, then it got broken. I should buy a new one

Hi Frank

Actually they become fashionably also.
I was reading in a magazine about stars like Kylie Minogue etc, that they've rediscovered vinyls again and when they have little gatherings between friends, they play scrable or monopoly and listen to records !
Of course this was not my reason in buying it, but the almost 200 records collection that we had.
Be careful : when we brought it home, it would not play plugged in the A/v, although we have chosen this particular receiver because the dealer said it has plugs for turntable too. Unfortunately, after a few days of confusion, we had to buy a small NAD amplifier special for turntable and now it sounds great.

of cours turntable needs special input without it does sound like shit. But most amplifiers do have a phono in newer maybe less. I have once heard one but I did not like it, i like the clear sounds of a compact disic.
nothing for ungood!

Hi

The ideea was that the shop recomended SR5300, specially to be able to plug directly the turntable. Apparently they didn't do their homework well.
Anyway, I stick to my preference, records and tapes sound warmer. Of course there are exceptions, one beeing the recording of the "Hell frezees over" concert of Eagles, which is DTS and sounds divine. That's why now I'm on a new quest: finding DTS recordings.