Dream setup.

Dear Deaf,
Thank you very much for the invitation, if possible I'll try to make it there.

Regrading Amused to death at my place there are lots of holes in the ozone layer the hemisphere's top is cut off and the base circle is about 20feet max. The depth is good, the dogs are barking in the next compound.

Got the air plane to start further behind, my new rug behind my chair has helped a lot, even the fm radio at left has gone slightly behind my listening plane. The horse carriage does a more convincing circling from behind left to right.

Then I enjoyed the rest of the album and played DSOTM LP before calling it a day

Once again thanking you for the invitation and reminding me of Roger waters.
Anil

deaf schrieb:

BTW Robert E.Greene of the Absolute Sound has heard and described this very same setup in Issue 124 of the Absolute Sound. He is a very accomplished reviewer, orchestral musician, mathematician and leads the pack in reviewing digital room correction devices. He still considers this setup as the best he has ever heard.Quote: The system has a far lower level of such(room related) residual signature than any stereo system I have heard. Think about it. Deaf.

REG himself considers the Harbeth Monitor 40 and the Gradient Revolutions as the most personally satisfying speakers. If i remember right he uses bryston amps himselves

has a nice site http://www.regonaudio.com/

Arj schrieb:

deaf schrieb: BTW Robert E.Greene of the Absolute Sound has heard and described this very same setup in Issue 124 of the Absolute Sound. He is a very accomplished reviewer, orchestral musician, mathematician and leads the pack in reviewing digital room correction devices. He still considers this setup as the best he has ever heard.Quote: The system has a far lower level of such(room related) residual signature than any stereo system I have heard. Think about it. Deaf. REG himself considers the Harbeth Monitor 40 and the Gradient Revolutions as the most personally satisfying speakers. If i remember right he uses bryston amps himselves has a nice site http://www.regonaudio.com/

Dear Arj,
You are correct he does.In the article 124 he goes further to say how he went back home trying to do up his listening room and speaker positioning, fully aware that what he had concieved informally, could no even begin to match the FOCUS room.
Regards,
Deaf.

Deaf, did you mean issue 124 ?
is this available on the web somewhere ? REG is one of the more rational and good guys in the business hence i do value his judgement considerably

HI Arj,
The link to issue 124

http://www.avguide.com/products/product-686/

thanks ani..completely forgot that avguide distributes absolute sounds pdf versions !

have just downloaded

hurricane_hojo schrieb:

The thing is that is no model in the entire Nad lineup which is crap for the money. ...The entire lineup including the venerable 3120 except the ones I mentioned above are owned by my friends / relatives and I have years of experience with them.

Though this topic is older: I agree full with you. The buddy who founded a "NAD" amp boring or with less dynamics had either did not listened to a NAD (still not mentioned the model) or the NAD was anyhow not in full working condition. Missleaded cable connections could be also a reason...

So why the whole discussion with a member who cannot name the model of this NAD amp(s) ? A serious audiophile junky or freak always can remember the model names he listened to in the past.
I received today a classic 3120 and my expectations about these older small NAD amps were more than confirmed. This is not my first amp. The dynamics paired with smoothness and fluency are extraordinary good ... WOWWW ! The 3120 is the lightly improved version of the 3020A and 3020. There is no amp in audio history which is so good reviewed by the most people than the NAD 3020.

Wasn't there a budget pioneer amp that had the same legendary status for entry level integrated's ?

Was it the a40, a80 by any chance ?

Manek

Pioneer A400 i think

just read this thread .. those days this forum was interesting !

Even today, reading any thread on this forum is far more interesting. Some nostalgia and lots of REAL hifi discussion. The wealth of knowledge that the bunch of guys put together here cannot be easily on any other Indian hifi forum. I just wish our regular members visit here more often.

Can we do a roll call

Arj schrieb:

Pioneer A400 i think

that's right model. Here, IMHO a more trustfully tester page:
http://www.tnt-audio.com/guide/amps_e.html
Also a classic NAD is mentioned there. So sorry guys I never can let it be ...

abhi.pani schrieb:

Can we do a roll call :)

just a curious thing noticed. My member name Tripath leans on an indian electronics engineer of the audio scene (Adja Tripathy). But whom I want to clear up ?

Sadly the next starting competition on my page "british vs. indian" will be written in german. If anyone should have interest in a short extract in english, so tell me. I could offer it here. But these NADs are really hard nuts to compete with. God dam'n - again this ugly word. Sorry ...

Tripath

You are not the only one to bring in nad into conversation from time to time.

I still have my nad 320bee(a much later model than the 3020) but still love it as much.

It definately gave you value for money and continues to do so. Sadly the prices here are now stratospheric. Such a put off !

Manek

Manek schrieb:

I still have my nad 320bee(a much later model than the 3020) but still love it as much.

hope that NAD did not switched here with your 320BEE into classic marketing. For example Sony audio gear: they offer many amps in the price range 200 to 2000 euros and they have to make the cheaper ones bad to sell the expensive models. NAD or a Creek in their early days were small one-man shows and they put in all research potentials into one amp model. They had no other choice except to produce a great sounding cheap amp to enter the market.

I still cannot explain this high current deliver ability of the NAD 3120 and it sounds same time so involving the listener into the music. A small wonder

While much was said about the NAD 3020's high current delivery, the secret to the amp's punchy sound was attributed to its Power supply tweaked to deliver its best around 50 Hz... which is reproduced well and provides slam even in mid priced systems. As a result the 3020 impressed the listener.

The 3020 does not deliver good Deep bass. The Power Supply design actually results in a smaller and cheaper transformer than if it was designed for good deep bass, which can make modest systems sound over bloated...

Overall the 3020 was a Superbly engineered component that balanced price with perceived sound.

maybe to correct one missunderstanding: this current delivery was just one issue.
I was also surprised about it's ability to integrate a relatively good soundstage followed by a smooth tonality. The weak point could be (and of course this is not the perfect amp) that it lacks in delivering all informations from a track. It is more the dark than the bright sounding amp ... IMHO and to point out further:
I am talking about the similar 3120 but not the same amp as the 3020.

was true even for the BEE version. I did own it for some time and found it dark rather than bright. but i believe the 350 and above had a different signature

The 350 is the best in their lineup in my opinion. I found that amplifier to be more resolving with classical music as compared to the 320bee. The 320bee has a “jump” factor to the design which makes it slightly more exciting with popular music.

Arj schrieb:

abhi.pani schrieb: Its true that one of the crappiest amp I have ever listened was from brand "NAD" (I wouldnt mention whose it was ) Buddy you are the "bias-est" person i have come across having been an owner of the Nad320BEE couple of years back i delfinitely would not call them bad. in fact they are one of the best amps you can start with (Along with the rotel/marantz/CA) when entering Hi-Fi.

Arjun Bhai, you really think I am like that ?

abhi.pani schrieb:

Arj schrieb: abhi.pani schrieb: Its true that one of the crappiest amp I have ever listened was from brand "NAD" (I wouldnt mention whose it was ) Buddy you are the "bias-est" person i have come across having been an owner of the Nad320BEE couple of years back i delfinitely would not call them bad. in fact they are one of the best amps you can start with (Along with the rotel/marantz/CA) when entering Hi-Fi. Arjun Bhai, you really think I am like that ? :angel

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