Dream setup.

ani schrieb:

Arjun, Dream dream!! From my list you can make out that I am a poor dreamer Regards Anil

with unlimited space..check this out

http://www.aca.gr/pop_jyk.htm

Arj schrieb:

soulforged schrieb: A more realistic choice would be - Camelot Merlin Pro CD Transport Camelot Dragon Pro 2 Mk.II Jitter Reducer/Resolution Enhancer Camelot Arthur V3.0 DAC I have heard these (minus the jitter reducer) and they blew my brains out. Camelot Arthur and Merlin : not really well known but known to be superlative..have only heard of them and wish had heard them ! lucky you does the company still exist ?

Well Mel Schilling is still alive, however, the company seems to have gone to sleep. No new products have been launched.

The Uther was in Version V in 2006 - last when I had checked.

The CD Play Back set up does exist in Mumbai & will be used in the Cadence Audio's Listening Room in Mumbai. You are most welcome to drop by for a listen.

with unlimited space..check this out http://www.aca.gr/pop_jyk.htm

Arj somehow I felt the whole atmosphere is too bright for audio.. anyways speakers are awesome...

Arj schrieb:

ani schrieb: with unlimited space..check this out http://www.aca.gr/pop_jyk.htm

Arj, this is a set up with GOTO Drive Units from Japan, if I am not mistaken.
a] These speakers will fit in a 500 sq. ft. room with ease.
b] You will have to go to a temple & break a dozen coconuts if your left & right speaker play the same - Mr. Goto is infamous for his Q.C. [quality control]. No 2 drive units he makes looks or measures the same.
c] Set up of this system would be a 'nightmare' since every part of it is active & has a million + variables.
Besides, I am not a 'lover of Horns' except, Martion Audio.
http://www.martion.de/english/produkte.html

sir, you truly live up to your name of bhagwan with your knowledge of the range of Hi fi !!!!

but on the subject of horns, Are not the Tannoy Horn range outstanding ?

my only problem with them is that they can be mistaken for a wardrobe

I also love the Orgon. In my opion the best performance at the Highend in Munich this year. Far away of the awful colorations of Tannoy or Avantgarde, let´s say.
For my dream setup I would buy this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
stage accompany ribbons, not sure if horn-loaded or not
Supravox 400 EXC bass in OB or better IB
DEQX for x-over and room correction
not sure about the amps

abhi.pani schrieb:

SUB_BOSS schrieb: we do subject the 320 BEE to a lot of "Gags" but its truly a wonder amplifier by any standards. I beg to differ.. Im always felt NAD lacked body and dynamics. Its true that one of the crappiest amp I have ever listened was from brand "NAD" (I wouldnt mention whose it was )...but I wouldnt generalize that to the entire range of its products. Some of their amps are decent as well "IMO".

Very misleading post.
Does this gentleman have a problem other than the Brand ?

I have been friendly with quite a few audiophiles in the Dallas-Fortwoth area in North Texas for a while now. Some of them have the C320bee or the C350 as the base of their secondary/bedroom system. They just don’t want to let go of that sweet amp even though they have much better amps now. Very classy performance indeed for the money you spend. They don’t magnify and throw bright images like most Japanese amp do. They excel in communicating music to you without coloring it much with decent dynamics and harmonics. Not a very fluid amp though but what amp is fluid at this price point ?
I have always felt that the NADs (any Nad for that matter) as the best budget amp to consider for anybody stepping into audiophile class audio for the first time.

Other notable budget amps which are quite popular include:
Burson. Pi 100. This one is very good.
http://www.enjoythem...io_pi_100_buffer.htm
Rotel RA02
Some Marantz amps.
Cambridge audio amps.
Some of the newer digital integrateds like nuforce, belcanto are quite popular but they are a bit more costly.

Interesting.

However, @ this years High End Martion Audio was only on static display !! The Goto Drivers look interesting to say the least. With TAD & DEQX they shall sound glorious.

Nice post !!

Very misleading post. Does this gentleman have a problem other than the Brand ?

Whose post is misleading dude?? Abhi PAni's or mine? Please be specific and mention names. As fas as Abhi's hatred towards NAD is concerned I don't know why he generalised the brand and called the whole line up crappy..He also had NAD CDP and swore by it. Probably he outgrew it too soon.
Is it really that bad??

Huh ho once had a chance to listen to a decent set up with NAD pre which spoilt the whole presentation with harsh and thin sound, Quad pre around just changed the things for better. Anyway I never liked the way NAD 320BEE sang.. see my statement which was specific to other post..

I beg to differ.. Im always felt NAD lacked body and dynamics.

Anyway welcome onboard but for a newbie on this forum you seem to be quite well informed about happenings here.

SUB_BOSS schrieb:

Very misleading post. Does this gentleman have a problem other than the Brand ? Whose post is misleading dude?? Abhi PAni's or mine? Please be specific and mention names. As fas as Abhi's hatred towards NAD is concerned I don't know why he generalised the brand and called the whole line up crappy..He also had NAD CDP and swore by it. Probably he outgrew it too soon. Is it really that bad?? Huh ho once had a chance to listen to a decent set up with NAD pre which spoilt the whole presentation with harsh and thin sound, Quad pre around just changed the things for better. Anyway I never liked the way NAD 320BEE sang.. see my statement which was specific to other post.. I beg to differ.. Im always felt NAD lacked body and dynamics. Anyway welcome onboard but for a newbie on this forum you seem to be quite well informed about happenings here.

Hi Sub boss,
I am not very familiar with Preamps from Nad. Even I have heard that they are not too good although Absolute sound gave them a fantastic review (the review was for the pre/power combo). I have heard the NAD integrateds in some of my friend’s homes and they sound pretty good to my ears. Most are secondary systems powering bookshelf speakers.
I have the foreplay 3 extended preamplifier feeding the Belles 150A hot rod power amplifier running a pair of Proac 1.3se’s. I guess the NAD house sound is not your cuppa tea or there is a system mis-match.

hurricane_hojo schrieb:

[ I have the foreplay 3 extended preamplifier feeding the Belles 150A hot rod power amplifier running a pair of Proac 1.3se’s. I guess the NAD house sound is not your cuppa tea or there is a system mis-match.

That amp of your is a "Killa"

did you by any chance mean a Dynaudio 1.3SE?

WOAH WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where do I start replying from....

hurricane_hojo wrote:

Very misleading post. Does this gentleman have a problem other than the Brand ?

Dear hurricane_hojo,
1. Leading or mis-leading, you are none to judge. I just posted my opinion after listening to the amp in question more than once. I didnt mention the model number because it would hurt people who own them.
You dont even know which model I was speaking about and you went around swinging your sword. Great entry dude!!!

Sub_Boss wrote:

He also had NAD CDP and swore by it.

Yes, I have used their CDP quite happily. I have nothing against the brand...you are assuming more than you can digest sir...this reminds me of another member on this forum who also assumes as much

Sub_Boss wrote:

As fas as Abhi's hatred towards NAD is concerned I don't know why he generalised the brand and called the whole line up crappy..

Sub_Boss Ji,
What has happened to you, where did I generalize my criticism to the entire range ????
Instead I wrote:

but I wouldnt generalize that to the entire range of its products. Some of their amps are decent as well "IMO".

abhi.pani schrieb:

WOAH WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where do I start replying from.... hurricane_hojo wrote: Very misleading post. Does this gentleman have a problem other than the Brand ? Dear hurricane_hojo, 1. Leading or mis-leading, you are none to judge. I just posted my opinion after listening to the amp in question more than once. I didnt mention the model number because it would hurt people who own them. You dont even know which model I was speaking about and you went around swinging your sword. Great entry dude!!! Sub_Boss wrote: He also had NAD CDP and swore by it. Yes, I have used their CDP quite happily. I have nothing against the brand...you are assuming more than you can digest sir...this reminds me of another member on this forum who also assumes as much Sub_Boss wrote: As fas as Abhi's hatred towards NAD is concerned I don't know why he generalised the brand and called the whole line up crappy.. Sub_Boss Ji, What has happened to you, where did I generalize my criticism to the entire range ???? Instead I wrote: but I wouldnt generalize that to the entire range of its products. Some of their amps are decent as well "IMO".

Maar saale ko!! Maar!!! Maaar!!!

Shahrukh schrieb:

abhi.pani schrieb: WOAH WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where do I start replying from.... hurricane_hojo wrote: Very misleading post. Does this gentleman have a problem other than the Brand ? Dear hurricane_hojo, 1. Leading or mis-leading, you are none to judge. I just posted my opinion after listening to the amp in question more than once. I didnt mention the model number because it would hurt people who own them. You dont even know which model I was speaking about and you went around swinging your sword. Great entry dude!!!images/smilies/insane.gif Sub_Boss wrote: He also had NAD CDP and swore by it. Yes, I have used their CDP quite happily. I have nothing against the brand...you are assuming more than you can digest sir...this reminds me of another member on this forum who also assumes as much Sub_Boss wrote: As fas as Abhi's hatred towards NAD is concerned I don't know why he generalised the brand and called the whole line up crappy.. Sub_Boss Ji, What has happened to you, where did I generalize my criticism to the entire range ???? Instead I wrote: but I wouldnt generalize that to the entire range of its products. Some of their amps are decent as well "IMO". Maar saale ko!! Maar!!! Maaar!!! :KR

No Arj.
It is the Response 1SE. Sorry for the typo. I do not like dynaudios. Especially the current models. Great speakers but voicing is not to my liking.
Yup. The Belles is a champion. Picked up the speakers and Belles from an Indian doctor in Houston. Great combo !

What’s up with this forum ? I do not want to pick up a fight with anyone here. I seem to have very good experiences with entry level amplifiers from Marantz, Nad, CA etc…That is all. They are good for any one entering this hobby on a tight budget. I have liked all models right from the original 3120. My dad had one of those old gems and we used to have a lot of fun.
Chill out and have fun…………

hurricane_hojo schrieb:

What’s up with this forum ? I do not want to pick up a fight with anyone here.

Heh heh... we don't either! Some of us are just very "passionate".

It's all in good spirit, believe me!

And yes, WELCOME!!

hurricane_hojo schrieb:

What’s up with this forum ? I do not want to pick up a fight with anyone here. I seem to have very good experiences with entry level amplifiers from Marantz, Nad, CA etc…That is all. They are good for any one entering this hobby on a tight budget. I have liked all models right from the original 3120. My dad had one of those old gems and we used to have a lot of fun. Chill out and have fun…………

No one is here to fight buddy...but we do believe in respecting each other's opinion (good or bad). I love the Marantz, even the most entry level ones. To me, it can show any casual listener what hifi is all about..again its my opinion.
I have listened to CA just once so cant comment.
The particular Nad model which I have criticized, I have heard at multiple places with multiple speakers and I found them absolute crap for the money...I cant help it..you see .
Anyways...Welcome to the Forum

hurricane_hojo schrieb:

No Arj. Picked up the speakers and Belles from an Indian doctor in Houston. Great combo !

On a lighter note, Doctors seem to have nice setups!

welcome hurricane!

Voodoo_CHild schrieb:

hurricane_hojo schrieb: No Arj. Picked up the speakers and Belles from an Indian doctor in Houston. Great combo ! On a lighter note, Doctors seem to have nice setups! welcome hurricane! :prost

Yup they do

My dream system:

Speakers : Avalon Isis or Eidolon
Source : Wadia Digital – 581i cd player or Meridian Audio 808
Preamp / power amp : Gamut D3i with D200 mk2 or Darzeel NHB 18NS with NHB 108.

hurricane_hojo schrieb:

My dream system: Speakers : Avalon Isis or Eidolon Source : Wadia Digital – 581i cd player or Meridian Audio 808 Preamp / power amp : Gamut D3i with D200 mk2 or Darzeel NHB 18NS with NHB 108.

We share the speaker in common !!!

I want to ask [if I may], why the GamuT & not Spectral ?
Why Wadia 581 in place of the 808 ? Sacd option ?

Besides, the GamuT amplification [pre + power] is 1/4th the price of the Dartzeel !!!

At least we share 1 of the sources & speakers in common. We should do some auditioning / demo's together. Looks like we 'listen' in a 'peculiar' manner !!! Good.

abhi.pani schrieb:

hurricane_hojo schrieb: What’s up with this forum ? I do not want to pick up a fight with anyone here. I seem to have very good experiences with entry level amplifiers from Marantz, Nad, CA etc…That is all. They are good for any one entering this hobby on a tight budget. I have liked all models right from the original 3120. My dad had one of those old gems and we used to have a lot of fun. Chill out and have fun………… No one is here to fight buddy...but we do believe in respecting each other's opinion (good or bad). I love the Marantz, even the most entry level ones. To me, it can show any casual listener what hifi is all about..again its my opinion. I have listened to CA just once so cant comment. The particular Nad model which I have criticized, I have heard at multiple places with multiple speakers and I found them absolute crap for the money...I cant help it..you see . Anyways...Welcome to the Forum :prost

The thing is that is no model in the entire Nad lineup which is crap for the money. They all share the same Nad house sound and technology with minor tweaks across the models. This has been noticed by me and audiophiles all over the world. I have heard everyone of them except the new C372 AND 325bee. It this particular piece broken or something ? Is it the C372 or c325bee which I have not heard? Even they have been getting rave reviews all over. The entire lineup including the venerable 3120 except the ones I mentioned above are owned by my friends / relatives and I have years of experience with them.

What exactly did you notice ? Which tracks /songs ? What was wrong ? What amp in that price category did that particular part better and how ? Can we get into specifics ? We could get this topic to Audio Asylum if you want ( I don’t want to hijack this thread) so that you can mention these specifics and then we can get into discussing / dissecting this performance and compare this to other amps in the same price.
If it is a personal dislike for Nad sound we can leave it at it. Can you start a new thread on this particular amp model either here or AA Please ? We can get into minute specifics. What say ?

bhagwan69 schrieb:

hurricane_hojo schrieb: My dream system: Speakers : Avalon Isis or Eidolon Source : Wadia Digital – 581i cd player or Meridian Audio 808 Preamp / power amp : Gamut D3i with D200 mk2 or Darzeel NHB 18NS with NHB 108. We share the speaker in common !!! I want to ask [if I may], why the GamuT & not Spectral ? Why Wadia 581 in place of the 808 ? Sacd option ? Besides, the GamuT amplification [pre + power] is 1/4th the price of the Dartzeel !!! At least we share 1 of the sources & speakers in common. We should do some auditioning / demo's together. Looks like we 'listen' in a 'peculiar' manner !!! Good. :)

I lean much more towards the Dartzeel sound Bhagwan. I have heard the gamut combination and liked them. The spectral may be better but I have not heard them. The list is based on the ones I have heard and fancied. There may be better amplification for avalon. I see that you are a commercial member. You may know what goes with Avalon better. Strangely, The Avalon Eidolon I heard was combined with Mac electronics. But I have heard the Dartzeel in another setup and I kinda liked the music it produced. Hence the liking for Dartzeel.
I guess I’ll pick the meridian over the wadia if I have a choice…………
I like some obscure small manufacturers (one man army type) too. Heard very good music made by some of them. I have not mentioned any due to brand obscurity.

I never knew I was a 'commercial' member !!

I like some obscure small manufacturers (one man army type) too. Heard very good music made by some of them. I have not mentioned any due to brand obscurity.

Details would be appreciated.
Thanks.

hurricane_hojo schrieb:

bhagwan69 schrieb: hurricane_hojo schrieb: My dream system: Speakers : Avalon Isis or Eidolon Source : Wadia Digital – 581i cd player or Meridian Audio 808 Preamp / power amp : Gamut D3i with D200 mk2 or Darzeel NHB 18NS with NHB 108. We share the speaker in common !!! I want to ask [if I may], why the GamuT & not Spectral ? Why Wadia 581 in place of the 808 ? Sacd option ? Besides, the GamuT amplification [pre + power] is 1/4th the price of the Dartzeel !!! At least we share 1 of the sources & speakers in common. We should do some auditioning / demo's together. Looks like we 'listen' in a 'peculiar' manner !!! Good. :) I see that you are a commercial member. You may know what goes with Avalon better.

Ya ya...he is the most sought after commercial members of this forum .

I have heard the gamut combination and liked them.

What was the set up ? GamuT through & through ? or was it a mix and match set up ?

The Avalon Eidolon I heard was combined with Mac electronics.

Strange mix. The Macs are very very slow amps & the Avalons are 'voiced' with Spectral's that are rather 'fast' amps.

I personally do not like Macs, but they sound good with SF [Stradivari i.e.]

hurricane_hojo schrieb:

abhi.pani schrieb: hurricane_hojo schrieb: What’s up with this forum ? I do not want to pick up a fight with anyone here. I seem to have very good experiences with entry level amplifiers from Marantz, Nad, CA etc…That is all. They are good for any one entering this hobby on a tight budget. I have liked all models right from the original 3120. My dad had one of those old gems and we used to have a lot of fun. Chill out and have fun………… No one is here to fight buddy...but we do believe in respecting each other's opinion (good or bad). I love the Marantz, even the most entry level ones. To me, it can show any casual listener what hifi is all about..again its my opinion. I have listened to CA just once so cant comment. The particular Nad model which I have criticized, I have heard at multiple places with multiple speakers and I found them absolute crap for the money...I cant help it..you see . Anyways...Welcome to the Forum :prost The thing is that is no model in the entire Nad lineup which is crap for the money. They all share the same Nad house sound and technology with minor tweaks across the models. This has been noticed by me and audiophiles all over the world. I have heard everyone of them except the new C372 AND 325bee. It this particular piece broken or something ? Is it the C372 or c325bee which I have not heard? Even they have been getting rave reviews all over. The entire lineup including the venerable 3120 except the ones I mentioned above are owned by my friends / relatives and I have years of experience with them. What exactly did you notice ? Which tracks /songs ? What was wrong ? What amp in that price category did that particular part better and how ? Can we get into specifics ? We could get this topic to Audio Asylum if you want ( I don’t want to hijack this thread) so that you can mention these specifics and then we can get into discussing / dissecting this performance and compare this to other amps in the same price. If it is a personal dislike for Nad sound we can leave it at it. Can you start a new thread on this particular amp model either here or AA Please ? We can get into minute specifics. What say ?

Yes he is right, its an individuals choice, someone may like nad's house sound or marantz's laid back, lets start a new thread on this

bhagwan69 schrieb:

I have heard the gamut combination and liked them. What was the set up ? GamuT through & through ? or was it a mix and match set up ? The Avalon Eidolon I heard was combined with Mac electronics. Strange mix. The Macs are very very slow amps & the Avalons are 'voiced' with Spectral's that are rather 'fast' amps. I personally do not like Macs, but they sound good with SF [Stradivari i.e.]

Great !
A member casually mentioned that you do some great brands..:-)) Do you have a showroom?
Thanks for the info on spectral.
The gamut setup was with the L5 or L7. I don’t remember exactly.
The Mac guy is a die-hard fan of Macs. He likes it the way it is.

hurricane_hojo, i ssumed you were in the US..are you based in bangalore ?

Arj schrieb:

hurricane_hojo, i ssumed you were in the US..are you based in bangalore ?

On vacation in Pondicherry.

Shahrukh wrote :

Maar saale ko!! Maar!!! Maaar!!!

Conflict creator..... Shakhti Kapoor.

LaScalaa schrieb:

Shahrukh wrote : Maar saale ko!! Maar!!! Maaar!!! Conflict creator..... Shakhti Kapoor.

BIG ONE!!

hurricane_hojo schrieb:

abhi.pani schrieb: hurricane_hojo schrieb: What’s up with this forum ? I do not want to pick up a fight with anyone here. I seem to have very good experiences with entry level amplifiers from Marantz, Nad, CA etc…That is all. They are good for any one entering this hobby on a tight budget. I have liked all models right from the original 3120. My dad had one of those old gems and we used to have a lot of fun. Chill out and have fun………… No one is here to fight buddy...but we do believe in respecting each other's opinion (good or bad). I love the Marantz, even the most entry level ones. To me, it can show any casual listener what hifi is all about..again its my opinion. I have listened to CA just once so cant comment. The particular Nad model which I have criticized, I have heard at multiple places with multiple speakers and I found them absolute crap for the money...I cant help it..you see . Anyways...Welcome to the Forum :prost The thing is that is no model in the entire Nad lineup which is crap for the money. They all share the same Nad house sound and technology with minor tweaks across the models. This has been noticed by me and audiophiles all over the world. I have heard everyone of them except the new C372 AND 325bee. It this particular piece broken or something ? Is it the C372 or c325bee which I have not heard? Even they have been getting rave reviews all over. The entire lineup including the venerable 3120 except the ones I mentioned above are owned by my friends / relatives and I have years of experience with them. What exactly did you notice ? Which tracks /songs ? What was wrong ? What amp in that price category did that particular part better and how ? Can we get into specifics ? We could get this topic to Audio Asylum if you want ( I don’t want to hijack this thread) so that you can mention these specifics and then we can get into discussing / dissecting this performance and compare this to other amps in the same price. If it is a personal dislike for Nad sound we can leave it at it. Can you start a new thread on this particular amp model either here or AA Please ? We can get into minute specifics. What say ?

Sir Ji,
We can discuss the same through PM (Private message) on this forum as well. But the point is..neither of us are going to change our views afterall. You have lived with Nads and have heard them extensively....I have auditioned them multiple times. I like Marantz more than Nad but thats a different thing. Among the Nad range also there are amps which are good for the price...320bee is not bad for 20k.

Obviously I cannot give any universal statement...everything I say is subjective to my taste and auditioning experience.

But for your info the regular tracks I use to audtion equipments are Dire straits/Knopfler, Pink Floyd, Patricia Barber, some well recorded bollywood tracks (Lagaan, Dil Se).
Even with the amp in question I had used the above music for evaluation. These music, I listen regularly at home so I am familar with them...recordings are decent.

A member casually mentioned that you do some great brands..:-)) Do you have a showroom?

Showrrom ?

If I am not a commercial member, what show room will I have ?

Sir,

there seems to be some sort of a mis understanding.
Maybe you have mixed me up with some one else;;;;

bhagwan69 schrieb:

A member casually mentioned that you do some great brands..:-)) Do you have a showroom? Showrrom ? If I am not a commercial member, what show room will I have ? Sir, there seems to be some sort of a mis understanding. Maybe you have mixed me up with some one else;;;;

I think the member has got it confused then. Sorry. He mentioned the guy with the Avalon isis avatar does some expensive brands.
Who does Avalon in India ?

abhi.pani schrieb:

hurricane_hojo schrieb: abhi.pani schrieb: hurricane_hojo schrieb: What’s up with this forum ? I do not want to pick up a fight with anyone here. I seem to have very good experiences with entry level amplifiers from Marantz, Nad, CA etc…That is all. They are good for any one entering this hobby on a tight budget. I have liked all models right from the original 3120. My dad had one of those old gems and we used to have a lot of fun. Chill out and have fun………… No one is here to fight buddy...but we do believe in respecting each other's opinion (good or bad). I love the Marantz, even the most entry level ones. To me, it can show any casual listener what hifi is all about..again its my opinion. I have listened to CA just once so cant comment. The particular Nad model which I have criticized, I have heard at multiple places with multiple speakers and I found them absolute crap for the money...I cant help it..you see . Anyways...Welcome to the Forum :prost The thing is that is no model in the entire Nad lineup which is crap for the money. They all share the same Nad house sound and technology with minor tweaks across the models. This has been noticed by me and audiophiles all over the world. I have heard everyone of them except the new C372 AND 325bee. It this particular piece broken or something ? Is it the C372 or c325bee which I have not heard? Even they have been getting rave reviews all over. The entire lineup including the venerable 3120 except the ones I mentioned above are owned by my friends / relatives and I have years of experience with them. What exactly did you notice ? Which tracks /songs ? What was wrong ? What amp in that price category did that particular part better and how ? Can we get into specifics ? We could get this topic to Audio Asylum if you want ( I don’t want to hijack this thread) so that you can mention these specifics and then we can get into discussing / dissecting this performance and compare this to other amps in the same price. If it is a personal dislike for Nad sound we can leave it at it. Can you start a new thread on this particular amp model either here or AA Please ? We can get into minute specifics. What say ? Sir Ji, We can discuss the same through PM (Private message) on this forum as well. But the point is..neither of us are going to change our views afterall. You have lived with Nads and have heard them extensively....I have auditioned them multiple times. I like Marantz more than Nad but thats a different thing. Among the Nad range also there are amps which are good for the price...320bee is not bad for 20k. Obviously I cannot give any universal statement...everything I say is subjective to my taste and auditioning experience. But for your info the regular tracks I use to audtion equipments are Dire straits/Knopfler, Pink Floyd, Patricia Barber, some well recorded bollywood tracks (Lagaan, Dil Se). Even with the amp in question I had used the above music for evaluation. These music, I listen regularly at home so I am familar with them...recordings are decent.

Great. Those are some great tracks to test speakers. Especially Patricia Barber. What a voice ! Not a fan of her singing style though. Nevertheless great singer for testing music systems. I am big Nad supporter. It is one brand that gives honest sound for the money. A big boon for an audiophile/music lover on a shoe-string budget. I was just curious cos I have not heard one Nad amp that sounded like crap in my entire audiophile life. My dad had the 3120; I had a C-350 in college. Some of my friends have the 320bee in the US. A friend in pondicherry has Nad separates, another guy runs a C370 with quads….the list goes on. Never has one of them sounded like crap. I have moved away from Nad and such amps but still fondly remember the joy it used to give and still recommended them to anyone on a tight budget.

abhi.pani wrote: WOAH WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where do I start replying from.... hurricane_hojo wrote: Very misleading post. Does this gentleman have a problem other than the Brand ? Dear hurricane_hojo, 1. Leading or mis-leading, you are none to judge. I just posted my opinion after listening to the amp in question more than once. I didnt mention the model number because it would hurt people who own them. You dont even know which model I was speaking about and you went around swinging your sword. Great entry dude!!! Sub_Boss wrote: He also had NAD CDP and swore by it. Yes, I have used their CDP quite happily. I have nothing against the brand...you are assuming more than you can digest sir...this reminds me of another member on this forum who also assumes as much Sub_Boss wrote: As fas as Abhi's hatred towards NAD is concerned I don't know why he generalised the brand and called the whole line up crappy.. Sub_Boss Ji, What has happened to you, where did I generalize my criticism to the entire range ???? Instead I wrote: but I wouldnt generalize that to the entire range of its products. Some of their amps are decent as well "IMO". Shahrukh wrote : Maar saale ko!! Maar!!! Maaar!!!

Shahrukh

At whom were you trying to use word Saale??? Me or Hojo????

SUB_BOSS schrieb:

abhi.pani wrote: WOAH WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where do I start replying from.... hurricane_hojo wrote: Very misleading post. Does this gentleman have a problem other than the Brand ? Dear hurricane_hojo, 1. Leading or mis-leading, you are none to judge. I just posted my opinion after listening to the amp in question more than once. I didnt mention the model number because it would hurt people who own them. You dont even know which model I was speaking about and you went around swinging your sword. Great entry dude!!! Sub_Boss wrote: He also had NAD CDP and swore by it. Yes, I have used their CDP quite happily. I have nothing against the brand...you are assuming more than you can digest sir...this reminds me of another member on this forum who also assumes as much Sub_Boss wrote: As fas as Abhi's hatred towards NAD is concerned I don't know why he generalised the brand and called the whole line up crappy.. Sub_Boss Ji, What has happened to you, where did I generalize my criticism to the entire range ???? Instead I wrote: but I wouldnt generalize that to the entire range of its products. Some of their amps are decent as well "IMO". Shahrukh wrote : Maar saale ko!! Maar!!! Maaar!!! Shahrukh At whom were you trying to use wordSaale???

Whats your intention

Whats your intention

My intention is to know why was the word used when you were justfying your view against my post????

SUB_BOSS schrieb:

Whats your intention My intention is to know why was the word used when you were justfying your view against my post????

But you didnt answer my question in that post:

Sub_Boss wrote:

As fas as Abhi's hatred towards NAD is concerned I don't know why he generalised the brand and called the whole line up crappy..

I wrote:

Sub_Boss Ji, What has happened to you, where did I generalize my criticism to the entire range ???? Instead I wrote

but I wouldnt generalize that to the entire range of its products. Some of their amps are decent as well "IMO".

hurricane_hojo schrieb:

bhagwan69 schrieb: A member casually mentioned that you do some great brands..:-)) Do you have a showroom? Showrrom ? If I am not a commercial member, what show room will I have ? Sir, there seems to be some sort of a mis understanding. Maybe you have mixed me up with some one else;;;; I think the member has got it confused then. Sorry. He mentioned the guy with the Avalon isis avatar does some expensive brands.Who does Avalon in India ?

Avalon has not come to India - as yet.
At least I am not aware of its representation.

I really want it to come.
All commercial members, please do try and get it. Superb speakers. Dr. Patel is a great designer.

Isis Avatar 'does' some expensive brands !!! Well except for AVI no one in India does any expensive brands !!

Its true that one of the crappiest amp I have ever listened was from brand "NAD" (I wouldnt mention whose it was )...but I wouldnt generalize

Isn't this enough generalisation and if you had to be particular then mention the model... BTW you have also edited the later posts to change the whole perspective.

But you didnt answer my question in that post: Sub_Boss wrote: As fas as Abhi's hatred towards NAD is concerned I don't know why he generalised the brand and called the whole line up crappy.. I wrote: Sub_Boss Ji, What has happened to you, where did I generalize my criticism to the entire range ???? Instead I wrote but I wouldnt generalize that to the entire range of its products. Some of their amps are decent as well "IMO".

Abe chup!

Now back to

why was the word Saale used by Shahrukh when you were justfying your view against my post????

and just when the forum was appearing to be grown up, this happens !

and just when the forum was appearing to be grown up, this happens !

Yes you are right and I'm sure nobody fancies to be called names when one's post is replied!

Where are the dream setups???

Sab saalon ko maaro!!


Relax guys - was just trying to have some fun - NO and I mean NO OFFENCE TO ANYONE!! Not to you hojo, cetainly not to you sub!! Abhi was just in an attacking spree so just egged him on!!

and just when the forum was appearing to be grown up, this happens !

Hey Arj, we're all still kids inside!

Hi Folks,
If it is permissable, can I get back to our day-dreaming thread.

As is probably the case for many others, I have never heard my fantasy equipment. Thanks to the internet however we do have an idea of their looks. So my list below has little to do with sound or music, and everything to do with looks!

Thanks to the link above to the frenchman's equipment, I can say for certain, that I would hate to have equipment like that in my house. Ideally, fantastic kit should sound fantastic, and look unobtrusive. Honestly if I had the money to blow on a turntable, what would I do? Most likely I would purchase a Rega P9. It looks like a record player, nothing else. A non-audiophile visitor would remark on the oddity of having a turntable around, but he/she would not suspect that its a high end Turntable. Contrast this with the Clearaudio statement or the Vyger Atlantis for instance.

At a humbler level, it is for this very reason that I like my Proac tablettes. Not one visitor has ever remarked or even noticed them. They just play music quietly. The same applies to my Audio-Analogue Primo amp and cdp. They look like a mini stack, and dont draw attention. There are in fact high end component that dont scream. YBA for instance, while enjoying a high reputation for sound, manage to keep a sober and sophisticated look without falling into the trap of dull workmanlike industrial looks ala Accuphase or loud machismo like the to me off-putting Krell.

Ofcourse one can carry a point too far, and understated aesthetics has also a certain opulence to it, but I for one simply detest flashy equipment. Good, high quality unobtrusive kit, with refined and detailed sound. Thats my idea of a great high-end system.

Purnendu

Relax guys - was just trying to have some fun - NO and I mean NO OFFENCE TO ANYONE!! Not to you hojo, cetainly not to you sub!! Abhi was just in an attacking spree so just egged him on!!

Whats a forum without some Jhatkas...

Egging Abhi??? got something to de-egg him.. you need to tame him nowadays he's too hyper..

Hey Arj, we're all still kids inside!

Except Arj..