Biwire or not

well it really depends on the speaker. some speakers take to it, some dont and some dont even have that option.

IMHO if you have a budget for cables better to spend it all on the best quality cable rather than 2 lower quality cables... but again other may have a different opinion. and some dont believe cables make a difference (Do they ?)

in the end i prefer the final option of spending it all on CDs

bi-wire with bi-amping sometimes would make a difference in sound quality.

Just simple biwiring(two sets of wires from the same amp terminals to speakers) is a no no in my books. Just use the same small piece of jumper wire as the speaker cable and you are set.

Manek.


Manek.

Maneck said: Just simple biwiring(two sets of wires from the same amp terminals to speakers) is a no no in my books. Just use the same small piece of jumper wire as the speaker cable and you are set.

I totally agree !

A cable company that doesn't believe in biwiring? Now that's an interesting read:

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I agree with ARJ. If it works for you, do it. Endless debates are there on numerous audio forums. End of the day, it is like the “electrical cable vs hi-end cable” debate only. Some can make out the difference, others can’t.

guys...i think the bi-wire funda was introduced by the cable manufacturers just to boost the sales...rather double it....

nindo schrieb:

guys...i think the bi-wire funda was introduced by the cable manufacturers just to boost the sales...rather double it.... :D

Not all cable manufacturers nindo. Refer to my last post.

Amp_Nut schrieb:

Manek said: Just simple biwiring(two sets of wires from the same amp terminals to speakers) is a no no in my books. Just use the same small piece of jumper wire as the speaker cable and you are set. I totally agree ! :)

Amp_nut, Manek: can you please explain why you guys think that "two sets of wires from the same amp terminals to speakers is a no no in my books"?
Thanks!


Re. biwiring, my experience seems to mirror what "Arj" said earlier: some speakers take well to it, others are ho-hum about it & in still others it makes no diff.

There seem to be several reasons to biwire (or not) & one of the reasons is back-EMF from the speaker drivers into the x-over network.
When I used to have B&W speakers, upon the manuf suggestion, I did biwire them in the "no-no" method cited by Manek & I can tell you that it made a diff to the sound for the better. I did compare the sound thru them single-wired & biwired. The jumpers I used were from the same manuf as the speaker cables.
I'm not sure that I have a concrete explanation for why the "no-no" biwiring method was successful but 1 hypothesis that I had was that with biwiring, the tweeter-mid xover & the woofer xover BOTH saw a low impedance (that of the amp) at the same time. Hence, if there was any back-EMF from the drivers to the x-over, there was a very low imp path for it rather than this back-EMF running around the x-over boards & polluting everything.

Empirically, I find that those speakers whose x-overs are carefully & well-designed, biwiring has little or no effect on their overall sound. In fact, manuf of those speakers specifically tell the user to not biwire.

Hi Bombaywalla,

I agree, that bi-wiring should in theory better seperate the Back EMF paths, and each damped seperately, at the speaker terminals.

However, my limited Practical experience showed no difference.... but I must admit that I tried alny using ordinary ( but thick, multi starnded ) wire.

I did not have at hand, 2 pairs of exotic cables...

Even when I tried 1 exortic pair + 1 ordinary pair, bi wiring.... the result was worse than no bi wiring.

I agree that results will probably vary with speakers and amp used in the set up.

Cheers

those whose tastes don't run to straight wiring can use 'bi' wire.

i agree with bombaywalla and amp nut. i think it all depends on the speaker and amp that you have.