CAS or DTH? What to choose?

1. WHERE in Mumbai do U live ?

CAS will be rolled out ONLY from South Mumbai to Mahim, and from the West Coast to the Western Railway line.

2. If you are on InCable, you DO NOT have the choice for Hathway or any other.

CAS is to be taken from YOUR Cable Operator.

3. TAKE CAS, Its Cheaper , and CERTAINLY not inferior to CATV.

4. ALL DTH & CAS Boxes in India offer ONLY Composite Video out.

I should also add :

1. I have been using the InCable Digital STB ( Set Top Box ) for almost 2 years & I could not be happier...

Picture quality is excellent on ALL 178 Digital Channels.

Stereo Sound too ( for channels that provide it... like Music channels.

2. Maybe you should consider me a Commercial Member for this thread

1. I'm way out in Thane, so seems like I have more time to think out it.

2. Sucks. +1 for DTH

3. How much cheaper?

4. Sucks again. Doom to them all! Its like buying B&Ws and finding out they have spring-clips

2. Sucks. +1 for DTH

Not REALLY.

Same is True for DTH.

If you buy a DTH setup from DishTV U CANT receive TataSky with it ( or visa versa )

Even worse... you cant rent out a DTH box to see if you like it or pay in installments. You have to put Rs 4,000 on the Table.

For the CATV CAS Box, you can rent it at Rs 45 per month, and return whenever...

3. How much cheaper?

CATV is Rs 77 for the Basic tier of approx 70 Free To Air Channels. Then you can Pick and Choose ANY Pay Channel individually ( eg STAR Plus, Sony, Zee, ESPN, NEO SPORTs) etc at Rs 5 per channel per month.

World wide, viewers rarely opt of even 20 Pay channels, hence ALL STBs ( Glogally and In India, Cable or DTH) have a max of 20 Favourite Channel memory locations ...

Hence even taking 20 Pay Channels will cost you only Rs 100 extra.

Ofcourse taxes are extra

TatSky does NOT Provide ANY choice of channels... Rs 300 per month, take it or Buzz off buddy... we are not in the retail business.

DishTV offers a choice of 2 or 3 packages, starting at approx Rs 180 ( which does NOT include the premium channels )

Any way.... since U are in Thane... dont worry about CAS... not YET a benifit for you, because the Government has FORBIDDEN ( By Law ) Cable networks to offer CAS outside the demarcated CAS terretories... Even if the consumer wants it

4. Sucks again. Doom to them all! Its like buying B&Ws and finding out they have spring-clips

Yup, and Large Electrolytic Caps in KEF ( and MANY Other ) Crossovers.

Amp_Nut schrieb:

Yup, and Large Electrolytic Caps in KEF ( and MANY Other ) Crossovers.

Interesting analysis. I didn't get the point about the electrolytics. What do they do to the sound (as compared to other types)?

If you buy a DTH setup from DishTV U CANT receive TataSky with it ( or visa versa )

What! I thought this was a pre-requisite for DTH operators.

And errr.....what is CATV??

1. CATV = Cable TV

2.

i. Each DTH receiver has the PROVISION to ADAPT itself for receiving other DTH service provider's Conditional Access Modules (CAM modules).

That IS The LAW.

However, neither DishTV nor TataSky offer their CAM modules.

ii. Even with the competitor's CAM module fitted, you will not receive the other guy's EPG ( Electronic Program Guide)

iii. The Dish TV & TataSky DTH Platforms are breoadcast from diffeternt points in the sky. Hence you would need to mechanically shift your dish and focus it on the other satellite.

I didn't get the point about the electrolytics. What do they do to the sound (as compared to other types)?

Electrolytic Caps are designed to work well ONLY with the correct range of Polarising ( DC ) voltage applied accross them.

No DC voltage and the cap's characteristics deteriorate rapidly, with the obvious impact on sound passing thru the cap....

There is NO DC voltage at the Loudspeaker Terminals ( atleast if the amp is working well ! )

Hence, No Electrolitic caps should be used in Loudspeaker cross overs.

They are used becase electrolytics provide the large Capacitance required in Cross overs, at a Fraction of the price & size of similar value non electrolytic caps.

Hi Guys, Have just ordered TataSky since we in South Delhi have been targeted by our esteemed Govt to be the benificiaries of modern tecnology!
Sorry Amp_nut, could'nt follow your advice since our local cable guy is a real crook and I would prefer to end the relationship with him.
Will let youall know how it works out.
Kamal

The bigest problem for the Indian Cable TV industry is "Image"

Incidentally, the world over, Cable TV has been loosely linked with the Mafia.... atleast in people's minds ... Image again..

Amp_Nut schrieb:

1. CATV = Cable TV 2. i. Each DTH receiver has the PROVISION to ADAPT itself for receiving other DTH service provider's Conditional Access Modules (CAM modules). That IS The LAW. However, neither DishTV nor TataSky offer their CAM modules. ii. Even with the competitor's CAM module fitted, you will not receive the other guy's EPG ( Electronic Program Guide) iii. The Dish TV & TataSky DTH Platforms are breoadcast from diffeternt points in the sky. Hence you would need to mechanically shift your dish and focus it on the other satellite.

A digression. Do you think that computer-based broadband will be the replacement for both cable and DTH? In a few years - as bandwith costs are falling. In Chennai, they are now below Rs 1 an MB.

Thanks for the info on the electrolytics, but I am fairly sure that multimedia speakers use these. I assume that the high-value caps are to prevent the bass from getting into the mid's driver.

Do you think that computer-based broadband will be the replacement for both cable and DTH? In a few years - as bandwith costs are falling. In Chennai, they are now below Rs 1 an MB.

I guess you are referring to IPTV ( Internet Protocol Television).

MTNL has already commercially launched the service on its telephone lines, ( the service is created, managed and run by TIME BROADBAND, using MTNL's lines on hire) in New Delhi, in early Dec 2006.


A Mumbai Launch is planned in Jan 2007.

You need an IPTV Set Top Box.

IMHO, this is an emerging technology, and currently little more than a technical curiosty.

Happy New Year To All.

I'm off on a Holiday, till 6th Jan and will miss the forum, since I wont have internet access.

Cheers !