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Amp_Nut
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04:27
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#101
erstellt: 01. Sep 2008, |
At a Great price too ... I may add. ( BETTER than what Audiogon can offer ... but with the bonus of it being delivered here in India ! ) |
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Manek
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#102
erstellt: 01. Sep 2008, |
Any idea what the price would be like in mumbai ? Manek |
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bhagwan69
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#103
erstellt: 01. Sep 2008, |
There is distributor in India for it; Mr. Rajesh sadrangani sells it @ Rs. 425/- K @ Atria - I think. Suggested Retail is US $'s 8,000/- This player was launched in CES 2008 - Jan. It is a new player. |
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Amp_Nut
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11:14
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#104
erstellt: 01. Sep 2008, |
When I said :
I was referring to the fact, that a MINT condition, 3 month, sparingly used one is available in Mumbai for Rs 2.25 L Yes... that is Half the price of what is apparently sold by the dealer. Further, the piece on sale has the Optional Digital In ( US $ 1000 extra option) making it usable as an external DAC for HDD playback migration. The CARY 306 plays BVoth - CDs and SACDs, and upsampling can be changed on the Fly ( while the song is playing) , from the remote... PM me for the seller's name, if interested. |
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Manek
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14:15
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#105
erstellt: 01. Sep 2008, |
1000 usd for an extra digital in jack ! Boy oh boy ! And selling at 2.2l for a used 3 month old piece, the full retail does not make sense.... Manek |
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goolimangala
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01:34
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#106
erstellt: 02. Sep 2008, |
It looks as if Simon Yorke is not only an expert in TT design but also a Hatha Yoga expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() By ![]() |
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bhagwan69
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03:18
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#107
erstellt: 02. Sep 2008, |
Whats on the 'left' ? Is it an Amplifier ? In front of Christian Isenberg --- Thanks. |
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Arj
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04:02
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#108
erstellt: 02. Sep 2008, |
Isnt that a lavardin INt amp ? |
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SNV
Stammgast |
06:05
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#109
erstellt: 02. Sep 2008, |
Its the Lavardin IT int amp. I have had the opportunity to hear this model. Very clean and revealing. Regards SNV |
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Arj
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07:21
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#110
erstellt: 02. Sep 2008, |
but i has a tendency to be slightly "thin" goes very well with JM labs as apparently the utopia range is voiced on a lavardin. |
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SNV
Stammgast |
08:15
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#111
erstellt: 02. Sep 2008, |
True. Infact I too heard the Lavardin with JM Lab. We later connected the Lavardin with the Helicons (mkI). I preferred it with the Dali. There was better mid mass weight with the Dalis. Regards SNV |
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bhagwan69
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08:31
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#112
erstellt: 02. Sep 2008, |
Interesting; I was 'told' that the Utopia was 'voiced' with Halcro by JM Labs @ their 'listening rooms' !! Front end used to be Phillips & Wadia & dcS [going up on the range] !! But this was 4 years back - when D.M. was over home - maybe things have changed now...... I have not been following JM Labs for a while now !! |
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sivat
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06:06
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#113
erstellt: 04. Sep 2008, |
There was speaker ad in Stereophile ( I do not remember the brand name...which was a full page ad). It said "Voicing" is bad because, it is really tweaking the sound and not the scientific approach to desiging a speaker. My experience in designing/making audio components might be limited, but i think this is a very very valid scientific statement. A lot of brands out there seem to be creating a lot of hocus-pocus ... What is key to a successful setup is not voicing, but whether the setup has components that match in terms of scientific parameters....such as impedance, gain, dampening, mechnical isolation, etc., But if "Voicing" is used to match components, it will lead to unnecessary complications. The challenge for a loudspeaker designer should be to design a speaker that will require a published amount of power and provide a uniform load on the amp. I cannot understand why one should voice "a" loudspeaker with "a" amp. It does not sound right to me .. |
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Arj
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10:07
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#114
erstellt: 04. Sep 2008, |
Siva, I think I understand where you are coming from. My understanding on this is that since speaker design is something of an art requiring a lot of "ear" time to be spent in judging the sound output, there needs to be setup which can present the sound. It is just that JM labs chose to run their speaker with the Lavardin and then try to put the right components to give the sound they feel will appeal the most. I believe almost any consumer company will make components which have a signature depending on their understanding of what the market wants..while my understanding of your view is that the audiophile market should not be looking for any signature sound but only reality..and hence design should be in the interest of purity of sound and not any "signature". Am I right ? |
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sivat
Stammgast |
03:15
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#115
erstellt: 05. Sep 2008, |
You are correct Arj. If a speaker has its own signature sound, then it is a limitation of the speaker and not as a design element (except for cases like Sonus-Faber, where the philosophy is different). At budget level - we could excuse manufacturers/designers as they need to cut cost on cabinet, crossover, and all. But you see this happen in even the so called hi-end product range. It is like a Software Bug that is covered up as a "Feature" ![]() In some cases, this "Voicing" is probably a myth - distributors create to "impress" customers. I do not believe companies like JMLab will be limited to follow a design process like this. Listening seesions are important to judge the end product of a design cycle, but it cannot be a design factor in itself. [Beitrag von sivat am 05. Sep 2008, 03:31 bearbeitet] |
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stevieboy
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10:09
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#116
erstellt: 05. Sep 2008, |
good point siva. the root cause of creating speaker that are good for jazz, or good for rock etc.. also i guess the designer's beliefs of what is 'correct' (personal belief balanced with market pressure) comes into play ![]() ![]() |
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