TUBES

Manek schrieb:

Yep Gotcha.....but has he started selling current prod stuff ? I wonder if ebay india has a sweet deal or two ?

he sourced it for me...so i guess he does.

BTW 2 sites i found pretty good to deal with internationally are
1.http://www.cryoset.com
2.http://pages.prodigy.net/jimmcshane/
3.http://vacuumtubes.net/ (They do not have all the brands listed, but you need to ask them about the availability and they will get back)

Yes I am aware of these sites. Tks. Uncle kevin at upscale audio keeps a good stash but a bit expensive. He is known to do very effective testing hence......very nice guy to correspond with.

Manek

Any interesting tubes any of you guys have found lately or new tube sources ?

Manek

I was recomended the Russian equivalent of the 6L6GC. called the 6N3C-e by Reflector. Found it at cryoset.com. not only are they less than 1/2 the price of the "Audiophile" grades. they perform better too. have them running on my system now.

That's cool.

Actually, i have been recently toying around with the standard sylvania 6sn7 and the vt-231 jan versions. Earlier I hadn't bothered with using a different rectifier with the jan version since both of them sounded almost identical with the ez80. Then a few days back I just decided to put in the jan set not realising the ez81 was in and wow ! Its got a little extra of everything !
The difference between the commercial and JAN issue is very audible. Definately more smack, upper freq extension yet retaining its other good qualities. My brimar and kenrad black glass are going to stay packed for a while :-)

Guys with 6sn7's, you should try out this combo. Especially if you have virens amp.

Manek

Manek schrieb:

That's cool. Actually, i have been recently toying around with the standard sylvania 6sn7 and the vt-231 jan versions. Earlier I hadn't bothered with using a different rectifier with the jan version since both of them sounded almost identical with the ez80. Then a few days back I just decided to put in the jan set not realising the ez81 was in and wow ! Its got a little extra of everything ! The difference between the commercial and JAN issue is very audible. Definately more smack, upper freq extension yet retaining its other good qualities. My brimar and kenrad black glass are going to stay packed for a while :-) Guys with 6sn7's, you should try out this combo. Especially if you have virens amp. Manek

I've been using the vt-231 jan version since the last two years. Totally agree with you - the tubes are absolutely astounding.

Yes reignofchaos, but with which rectifier ?

My difference between the standard and JAN came about using the bigger rectifier. It draws more current from the power supply and that probably has something to do with it.

Its quite funny, that post the mods to the amp mostly all tubes with the ez80 rectfier sounded better except this particular pair of sylvania JAN. Before the mods the ez81 rectifier ruled.

Manek

Manek schrieb:

Yes reignofchaos, but with which rectifier ? My difference between the standard and JAN came about using the bigger rectifier. It draws more current from the power supply and that probably has something to do with it. Its quite funny, that post the mods to the amp mostly all tubes with the ez80 rectfier sounded better except this particular pair of sylvania JAN. Before the mods the ez81 rectifier ruled. Manek

I'm using a JJ/Tesla EZ81. There's a massive difference between the older BEL EZ80 and this one.

Try the bel ez81 if you can. I have had a very good experience with it. I will try and swap it with a brimar and phillips ez81 later.

Many are realising the same in the west and have begun to use bel tubes.Their 12au7's are very good. I reckon very soon stocks of bel tubes may deplete in india. The only down side is the consistency of bel tubes so a matched pair would be better.

Manek

Manek schrieb:

Try the bel ez81 if you can. I have had a very good experience with it. I will try and swap it with a brimar and phillips ez81 later. Many are realising the same in the west and have begun to use bel tubes.Their 12au7's are very good. I reckon very soon stocks of bel tubes may deplete in india. The only down side is the consistency of bel tubes so a matched pair would be better. Manek

I have the BEL as well. However I found the JJ to be a bit better in detailing. Its very minor but there. Since I got the JJ for virtually nothing, I'm not complaining. Otherwise I'd not pay money and then buy the JJ over the BEL.

Cheers!

Has the contact of be3amplifiers changed ? Mails keep bouncing back.

Manek

Manek schrieb:

Has the contact of be3amplifiers changed ? Mails keep bouncing back. Manek

No idea! Haven't tried mailing him for a while.

Manek schrieb:

Has the contact of be3amplifiers changed ? Mails keep bouncing back. Manek

i received a reply from them not so long ago..

Btw, instead of those 6F8G roundplates...picked up a pair of these today for about 80$ shipped.

Tks for the headsup

Manek

are there any Indian variants of the 6SN7, 12SN7 tubes?

I'd be interested in picking up at least a pair each if they are any good.

I doubt if 6sn7 or its variants were ever made in india.

Viren and aks would be the right people to guide you.

Manek

ANy suggestions for 6922 tubes for preamp/headphone amp duty? Currently using the standard JJ tubes.

Probably the jan philips/sylvania ?

Don't know if telefunken/mullard made em but one of then should have ?


Speaking of tubes......I saw a brand of tubes called NEUTRAL on rs website. Can't find stuff on the net with that name. Any idea what/who is that manufacturer ?


Manek

are there any Indian variants of the 6SN7, 12SN7 tubes

Hi,

The 6SN7 and 12SN7 were not made in India.

ANy suggestions for 6922 tubes for preamp/headphone amp duty

You could try the E88cc in place of the 6922.

BEL made these in India. The Valvo version is supposed to be very good.


The E88cc tubes I have seen from Mullard, BEL etc have gold pins.

Regards
Rajiv

Rajiv, have you tried the BEL E88CC?
How do they compare to the EUropean counterparts?

Aren't they supposed to have used Mulalrd tooling?

Can you point me to a source for these tubes? THanks.

Rajiv, have you tried the BEL E88CC? How do they compare to the EUropean counterparts? Aren't they supposed to have used Mulalrd tooling? Can you point me to a source for these tubes? THanks.

Hi,

I tried the BEL E88CC tubes in an active crossover(Steve Bench) years ago.They were quite good,and better than the regular ECC88.

BEL used Phillips/Mullard tooling. BEL tubes even have the Mullard/Phillips factory code(V) etched on the tubes.

http://www.audiotubes.com/mullcode.htm

The BEL tubes were available from the old electronic spare dealers but almost all of these shops are gone or have switched to selling cellphones,computer stuff or chinese dvd players and such.

The far east tube dealers have also cleared out the Indian market of tubes.

I guess the source for these tubes is Ebay or the regular tube dealers.

http://www.tubemonge...2_Gold_Pin_p/345.htm

Regards
Rajiv

As a matter of fact I like the bel 12ax7 and 12au7 as well.


Manek