Yamaha Setup

Go for the Sonodyne reciever...it beats the pants off the Yamaha rxv450 in all departments (music and movies...)

hey lohifi.....

i have a polk FS,center and sub for sale if ur interested let me know....

edges

Hello Edges
I am interested, can you please give the price in my personal mail.

Hi all
Pardon me for repeating the question ?

Has anybody got any feed back on Yamaha NSP-106/116 ?


Lohifi

Hi,

You could consider the ONKYO AVR TX-503. As far the NSP-106, it is quite an economical option.
If budget permits, consider the POLK AUDIO RM-6750 5.1 Speaker package.

Cheers,

AVX

Hi,

If you listen mostly to music either go for a stereo amp or Marantz avr since it performs well on stereo also. Marantz will be more expensive than the Yamaha though...

RX-V450 is a decent entry level receiver, and if you pair it with decent speakers it performs well.

I am not sure about your budget and your tastes but if I were you (and on my budget) I would go for Boston or Wharfies (though I went for Lithos and I am loving it - excellent for music reproduction with RX-V450). Boston is very clean and flat sounding (especially the CR65 - costs 11-13k), and wharfies are VFM any day.

I personally do not like polk, though it may suit your taste.

HTH
-ashutosh

Hi ashutosh (verynewone),
My reason for selecting Yamaha 450 is that, as rightly mentioned by you "it is a decent entry level receiver". This is the lowest model with discrete amp design.


I am on a very low budget (20K - 30K), so that was whyI was planning to get NS-P116 first and then add tower front speakers later on. I really have not done much study on front speakers, your advice is really helpful. I listened to Polk Monitor 60 and liked the sound but since I did not have much experience I could not compare this with anything else. How will you compare Lithos with Wharfedales ?

Lohifi

hey lohifi.....

if u have listened to monitor 60 then i think u shud even listen to monitor 50....they are much better than monitor 60.......this is what me,benkenobi and abhi pani had felt when we listened together......give monitor 50 a try......

edges

Hello Edges,
Defenitely I am going to try Monitor 50. It seems like the only difference between 50 and 60 is that 50 has got one driver less. Any idea what is the cost ? Can I get it for price less than what is quoted in AVMAX ? (Just a query, I don't want to start a war of words as to why grey market is cheap ).

LoHifi

hey lohifi.....

ya the diffeence is only one driver but there is lot of difference when u hear them side by side so try listening one after the other in both HT and stereo mode.......we listened to them and all the same difference that 60 was losing out on the details though this one having one extra driver and being a three way it looses out to 50......

no u wudnt get them at a lesser prices as mentioned in the AV max as PROFX are having a inaugaral offer by introducing the polk monitor series here in india......the prices as mentiones have gone up 10% when i purchased about two months back......do enquire bout the same with them......

my brand new in sealed condition,speakers are for sale that is the monitor 50,center CS1 and subwoofer PSW12.....let me if u are interested......and u dont get the polk monitor series in grey market......do check out the prices on amazon and polk website.....after converting into rupees its almost the same price here on that u get three years warranty on the speakers and i year on the electronics on the sub......

edges

Thanx Edges,
I am surprised that a two way speaker of same series, same manufacturer beats a three way speaker. I did not have the oppurtunity to compare these.

I am on a very low budget (20K - 30K), so that was whyI was planning to get NS-P116 first and then add tower front speakers later on. I really have not done much study on front speakers, your advice is really helpful. I listened to Polk Monitor 60 and liked the sound but since I did not have much experience I could not compare this with anything else. How will you compare Lithos with Wharfedales ?

Hi lohifi,
First of all, sorry for the delay in responding. I am not sure about the brands that you have auditioned, so all I can say is that do audition other brands that are available in your price range.

Regarding the comparison, (Lithos) Noa 1 is easier to drive than Wharfedale and performs better in music; excellent overall frequency response with minimal compromise on the low freq front. And my setup is in a room that has undergone no acoustic treatment. If you stay in or near bbay, do audition it.

With movies, I had very little chance to test it, but from whatever I have seen till now, it is satisfactory.

BTW, Abhi has auditioned my setup so he might be able to give an objective view.

Abhi, any comments?

Hi Ashutosh(verynewone), lohifi,
Ya man Ashutosh, your system sounded quite balanced and musical...especially the mids from the Sattelites. I would specifically reccomend the Lithos NOA-1 to people who want to build a HT + Stereo setup stagewise. Most of us wanna have the best of both worlds and in the process would require a huge amount of bucks to have seperate HT and Stereo setups. But Lithos have this very flexible system which can be enjoyed in stereo mode and can be later upgraded to a good HT without any compromise to either.

Now thats the flexibility that we Indians look for and Lithos has given it the right way.
But yes, I would say that a Yamaha would be my last preference (in the entry level) as a reciever (better than the Sony ofcourse). But thats entirely my personal taste..

But the Lithos have done a wonderful job. I wonder how their higher end systems would sound..

Hi verynewone,
Sorry for the delay as I was out of station for a few days.

Is Lithos still available ? Their website seems to be dead so I could not get the contact info. Can you pm their address or phone no ?

Lohifi

Lohifi,
Abhi is right about Sonodyne. If you do not have any hangups about Branding etc, go for Sonodyne. It costs only around 17.5 k, real value for money. I am looking forward to auditioning their surround processor + multichannel amp combo.

For a budget of <20K, Yamaha and Sonodyne are the only two viable options if you are purchasing from India

Is Lithos still available ? Their website seems to be dead so I could not get the contact info. Can you pm their address or phone no ?

I think they are updating their product range. Will PM u their phone no and mail id.

Thanx VerynewOne,
Since the Lithos website is down, can you please give me some details.

Since the subwoofer is a passive one, do I have to run all the speaker wires first to subwoofer ? Also please tell me the configuration of the sat, is it two way, what is the driver size ?

Their site is up again (http://www.lithosindia.com) but with some problems, anyways here are the details...

Since the subwoofer is a passive one, do I have to run all the speaker wires first to subwoofer ?

There are two ways for connecting, first run all the wires to the sub first, second connect both the sub and sat to the same terminal in parallel. There is a third way which will not work with RX-V450. If you have the option of bi-amping, you can connect the sub and sats seperately. I tried connecting the front A terminals to the Sats and the front B terminals to the Sub, doesn't work well with RX-V450.

Also please tell me the configuration of the sat, is it two way, what is the driver size ?

Yes it is a two way...

Sat configuration:
Tweeter: 1" FF cooled
Mid: 41/2"

Crossover between mid and tweeter: 3kHz (4th Order)

Sat freq response: 100Hz to 20kHz
Sat Sensitivity: 89dB
Sat Impedance: 8 Ohms

Overall specs:
Power Handling capacity: 70 W RMS/channel
Sensitivity: 89dB
Impedance: 6 Ohms
Frequency response (-3dB): 46 Hz to 18kHz
Usable response (-8dB): 38 Hz to 20kHz

hi guys..

sorry for pokin my query on the same topic..but its kinda similar...
i m new to the HT scene too and plainnin to buy my first HT after havin a really bad experience with the first ever kenwood mini compo in india- UD523...

this is what i have in mind (and budget):

Yamaha rx-v450 (gettin from abroad for a throwaway price)
polk monitor 40 for fronts (13k)
polk monitor 30 for surr.(8k)
polk cs1 for cc (9k)
i will be usin kenwood SW301 sub that i have clubbed with my current system...(powered 100w rms with crossover 80-120)
i stay in mumbai and the prices for polks over here are almost on par with the prices in US (with a wee bitta diff)

ofcourse one has to listen to it to know how it ll sound but whats ur take on this setup theoritically...???do ya think the sub will go with it...???

please put some light...

cheers

nindo

Hi verynewone,

Thanks for your info

Overall specs: Power Handling capacity: 70 W RMS/channel Sensitivity: 89dB Impedance: 6 Ohms Frequency response (-3dB): 46 Hz to 18kHz Usable response (-8dB): 38 Hz to 20kHz

Is it including the sub also, bcse the low freq side it is upto 38Hz only which I feel is on a higher side.

The Lithos website is still having some problems, my proxy server is reporting virus problems in their server.

Hi lohifi,
Overall response includes the passive sub.

Is it including the sub also, bcse the low freq side it is upto 38Hz only which I feel is on a higher side

I will try to answer this with my limited knowledge about Noa 1s design. The sats are cut-off at 100Hz and the passive sub has two 51/4" drivers and goes till 125 Hz, these two points (I guess) make the combination easier to drive, producing reasonable overall freq response at the same time. I find it ample for regular listening and movie viewing.

If you compare the specs with the specs of the "cheap and best" subs, you will find that most of them go till 35-30 Hz. Anyways specs are just specs...

If you have a decent budget you can also go for an active sub; Lithos' Terra 150, Sonodyne's Roarr series etc. Or you can add an active sub later on (I plan to do so).

I would advise you to talk to Rajiv, he is a very helpful guy and I am sure he will be able to answer your queries satisfactorily.

Hi verynewone,
I will talk to Rajiv to get the details.

But you know 5 1/4 driver is not what you usually use in a subwoofer. I will direct my questions to Rajiv.

Thanx for your help

loHifi

True, 51/4" drivers are generally not used in subs. The bigger drivers (8" and above) are used and are more difficult to drive. Active subs take care of that issue by having a dedicated amp. The Noa 1 passive sub has two 51/4" drivers and I guess the way the configuration is done, helps in better low freq response (again this is based on my limited knowledge of the Noa 1s design). Also, note that the effect of a sub woofer is dependent on its positioning.

The same speakers could have been made as floorstanders. So you can take the Noa 1 system as Floorstanders seperated into a sub-sat combo kind of configuration. The advantage here is that you have more to work with in terms of configuration of the mid-tweeter, the low freq drivers, and you also get the flexibility of sub placement to get the bass response according to your taste.

I had similar concerns about the driver size, but in the end its music that matters :D. Do audition the Noa 1s if you get a chance, you will not be disappointed.