CD Players - Above 50/- K & Below 100/- K. SUGGESTIONS ???

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bhagwan69
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#1 erstellt: 09. Dez 2005, 09:29
Hello !

Need a CD Player;

Budget :-

Above 50/- K
Below 100/- K

Options ?

A] Available in India [through dealers]
B] Available abroad [grey market]

Red Book for 2 Channel play back.

2nd hand / used players can also be considered.....

Thanks,

BHAGWAN69

abhi.pani
Inventar
#2 erstellt: 09. Dez 2005, 09:46
Quad and Arcam...is what comes to my mind.
I have heard both (though not on the same system).
Both are awsome. Sorry, dont remember the model numbers. But the Arcam is owned by Siva (a forum member), you can get the details from him.
The Quad I saw had a in built Pre-Amp....awesome mids and highs man.

If you can go a bit higher to say 120k then you may try a Wadia (dont remember the model number again but it has a volume control, its entry level from Wadia) argubably the best in the list. But I am not sure if you would get it for that price in India...
bhagwan69
Inventar
#3 erstellt: 09. Dez 2005, 10:12

abhi.pani schrieb:
Quad and Arcam...is what comes to my mind.

If you can go a bit higher to say 120k then you may try a Wadia (dont remember the model number again but it has a volume control, its entry level from Wadia) argubably the best in the list. But I am not sure if you would get it for that price in India... :.


Wadia is out of my budget; Besides the 302 is getting phased out. New Wadia models are getting launched @ 2006 CES.

Arcam was in India through Cadence [I think]. But they seem to have stopped doing it !!!! Arcam used to use a 'watered down' version of the ring dac from DCS.

Yes, the quad is an option to consider, but it sounds best with its own amplifier [909]. They have a special link to connect the Power Amplifier.

Any other options ?

Regards,

BHAGWAN69
sbfx
Stammgast
#4 erstellt: 09. Dez 2005, 10:32
Audio Aero Prima I'm certain it would kill anything till the price point of 1L.


Satyam.
abhi.pani
Inventar
#5 erstellt: 09. Dez 2005, 10:43
May try a Linn....Prithvi can tell you more on this or a Higher end Marantz, say CD8000 (I havent heard them though)
Jeeves
Stammgast
#6 erstellt: 09. Dez 2005, 11:10
A Rega Jupiter is my suggestion. Check if Soundsmiths has any in stock. Very 'Rega' analogue sound and very high specs. Good looking too!

http://www.rega.co.uk/index2.htm
Manek
Inventar
#7 erstellt: 09. Dez 2005, 11:44
maybe the audio analogue...and the quad 99 II(newly released I was told).

rega jupiter....very good model.

Dont know if Mahendra Dave still has the Audio note tube output stage cdp but that was good too.

Manek.
Arj
Inventar
#8 erstellt: 09. Dez 2005, 13:16
If you are looking at detail

1. Arcam 92 (But incremental value over an Arcam 73 is low...). I think they have moved to Woolfson now
2. Musical fidelity (NOt Xray but the others are good)
3. Naim (Perhaps my favourite in CDPs). i am not sure of its availability in India tho..

Warm Laidback (Over and above the Rega and Audioaero)

1. Opera consonance 2.2 Very very good.. has volume control to boot
2. Cayin
3. Micromega. it is available in Singapore.

But my highest recomendation will be to get a Benchmark DAC1 from singapore.. the best VFM IMHO. just use it with your usual DVD player


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sivat
Stammgast
#9 erstellt: 09. Dez 2005, 13:51
I would check out the following

Copland
Musical Fidelity A5
Meridian (not sure though about price)
Linn (there is a model for lakh, but not sure of the name...)

Cheers
Siva.
Arj
Inventar
#10 erstellt: 09. Dez 2005, 14:16

sivat schrieb:
I would check out the following

Copland


Cheers
Siva.


How could I miss that. Excellent recomendation Sir !.

Copeland and Electrocompaniet are perhhps one of the most delicate but detailed CDPs i have ever heard. Funny that both are scandinavian !

NOt sure about its availability outside europe tho.. but if you can get anything from Europe then please add Lector AND Audiomat to your list.. Audiomat are less known outside france and Canada but their Tube equipment is very well regarded .. on the lines of Jadis but not that expensive.

From the US Cary audio should have a playe in the USD 200O budget. another name would be Sim Audio ( thinnk their Equinox is the lower end model within the above budget)

But I really have no idea about the Warranty etc etc..

Sub Note: I completely forgot about Primare.. another good CDP model within budget but again not sure of its indian dealer. b


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Manek
Inventar
#11 erstellt: 10. Dez 2005, 06:13
primare is now being sold by soundsmiths in bombay..same guys who distribute dynaudio.

manek.
sbose
Schaut ab und zu mal vorbei
#12 erstellt: 11. Dez 2005, 16:30
What about Jolida 100A cd player?
Arj
Inventar
#13 erstellt: 11. Dez 2005, 16:48
jolidas were pretty good some years back.. but do sometimes have a problem with their transport.

If you get warranty on it including the lens..then it is a very good Value for Money buy. (In internationam market it is in the USD 400-700 range depending where you buy it) not sure in INdia
sbose
Schaut ab und zu mal vorbei
#14 erstellt: 12. Dez 2005, 14:46

Arj schrieb:
jolidas were pretty good some years back.. but do sometimes have a problem with their transport.

If you get warranty on it including the lens..then it is a very good Value for Money buy. (In internationam market it is in the USD 400-700 range depending where you buy it) not sure in INdia


I think Ocenic (Mr. Mahendra Dave)at Pune are distributers for jolida in India.
Krish
Stammgast
#15 erstellt: 13. Dez 2005, 08:24
The Linn Genki, if it's still in production
Bob_Ludwig
Ist häufiger hier
#16 erstellt: 16. Dez 2005, 13:52
Will anything from Linn be available at a price less than 600 Pounds ?

BOB
Krish
Stammgast
#17 erstellt: 19. Dez 2005, 09:44

Will anything from Linn be available at a price less than 600 Pounds ?

BOB


Unlikely
Bob_Ludwig
Ist häufiger hier
#18 erstellt: 20. Dez 2005, 04:44

Arj schrieb:
jolidas were pretty good some years back.. but do sometimes have a problem with their transport.

If you get warranty on it including the lens..then it is a very good Value for Money buy. (In internationam market it is in the USD 400-700 range depending where you buy it) not sure in INdia


Poor Build Quality & very Poor Sound Quality [Currently]

The Chinese Opera Consonance may be a better option.

http://www.consonance.com.hk/sou_all.htm

BOB



http://www.operaudio.com/products/refcd22.htm

This is the one I was suggesting !!!
Great 'VFM' Player.


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Jeeves
Stammgast
#19 erstellt: 01. Jan 2006, 09:28
Rega has introduced a new cdp called the apollo. I think it should be cheaper than the Jupiter which is around 100k. But they claim some new interesting technology.

http://www.rega.co.uk/index2.htm
Arj
Inventar
#20 erstellt: 01. Jan 2006, 09:51
hello jeeves,

There was a lot of discussion on the Apollo in some other forums. it apparently is a very good thing to have happened to Rega. lets wait and see

I recently was speaking to someone on the Opera 2.2. It is supposedly pretty amazing for its cost. A very solid build as well as clean sounding and resolving..


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viren
Stammgast
#21 erstellt: 02. Jan 2006, 05:08
Hi,

I've been following the movement in CD replay to go to no upsampling, no antialiasing filter designs. As exemplified by AudioNote, Zanden, and now Consonance (Opera Audio).

Seems to produce an extremely natural, fatigue free sound.

Now, Opera has brought out composite CD players employing this philosophy, which are half-affordable. Hopefully, SoundSmiths in Mumbai will bring them in so we can listen to them and hear for ourselves.

Viren.
bhagwan69
Inventar
#22 erstellt: 02. Jan 2006, 06:15

viren schrieb:
Hi,

Now, Opera has brought out composite CD players employing this philosophy, which are half-affordable. Hopefully, SoundSmiths in Mumbai will bring them in so we can listen to them and hear for ourselves.

Viren.


They are already in, in fact they have been on demo for the past 1 month. They also have a piece in ND at their DC Showroom. You could drop by and audition the same.

For all the forum members in Bombay, the player is on demo @ Ritz Hotel. It is nice to comapre it to the Primare.

BHAGWAN69
Manek
Inventar
#23 erstellt: 02. Jan 2006, 06:50
any idea what the pricing is in INR for the Opera ?

manek.
Prithvi
Stammgast
#24 erstellt: 02. Jan 2006, 06:51
Do try the Copland Cd-823, or a LINN GENKI. (just sold one in Blore). You can also try the Primare CD player.
Rgds

Prithvi
Manek
Inventar
#25 erstellt: 02. Jan 2006, 06:53
I was reading a very nice review in the press as well...for the copland cdp's

manek.
bhagwan69
Inventar
#26 erstellt: 02. Jan 2006, 11:56

Manek schrieb:
any idea what the pricing is in INR for the Opera ?

manek.


About 85 K if I am not mistaken - retail all inclusive.

Bhagwan69

P.S. It also comes with a volume control - built in.
bhagwan69
Inventar
#27 erstellt: 02. Jan 2006, 11:58

Prithvi schrieb:
Do try the Copland Cd-823, or a LINN GENKI. (just sold one in Blore). You can also try the Primare CD player.
Rgds

Prithvi


Are these CD Players under 100 K ?

I know the Primare is not;
What about the Linn ?

BHAGWAN69

P.S. The Copland is not sold in India, I think...
bhagwan69
Inventar
#28 erstellt: 02. Jan 2006, 12:01

Prithvi schrieb:
Do try the Copland Cd-823, or a LINN GENKI. (just sold one in Blore). You can also try the Primare CD player.
Rgds

Prithvi


http://www.hometheat...d-player-2-2004.html

http://www.uhfmag.com/Issue59/Genki.html

http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_print.asp?ID=2107
[2006 review of the cd player]

The Linn Genki has a list of US $'s 1,950/- hence it would surely be less than 100 K.
This player would qualify.

BHAGWAN69
Bob_Ludwig
Ist häufiger hier
#29 erstellt: 02. Jan 2006, 12:10
1 model of Primare might be in the budget - CD21

http://primare.net/00002/00007/00009/default.asp

This is a cheaper player.

Every component of the CD21, from the CD transport to the audio output stage, has been designed to achieve the highest possible audio performance.

The CD21 uses an excellent low-noise mechanism and a high quality DAC for each channel, which, in synergy with Primare’s discrete circuit topology, restores smooth, undistorted, naturally three-dimensional music to the listener.

A very large power supply using a R-core transformer with separate windings for all of the player’s different power requirements and ultra fast discrete power regulators for the critical analogue audio stage, makes sure that enough regulated power is available for even the deepest sonic transient that can be recorded on a compact disc.

Various analogue and digital outputs are provided for a maximum of flexibility in system configuration as well as RS-232 and IR ports are provided for system automation options.

BOB

bhagwan69
Inventar
#30 erstellt: 02. Jan 2006, 12:22
CD 21 is there @ Sound Smith - have heard it with Dali

BHagwan69
Amp_Nut
Inventar
#31 erstellt: 10. Jan 2006, 10:40
IMHO the Denon 2900 or the Marantz Universal player ( forget the model no) are hard to beat. I believe they are STREETS ahead of the Rega players and many others.

The Marantz is priced around Rs 40 K

The Deno 2900 is actually discontinued, but new units are, Im told avaliable in the grey market at below Rs 27 K.

GREAT Buy at that price.

But then both these are BELOW your price range ..
ani
Stammgast
#32 erstellt: 10. Jan 2006, 12:48
Perreaux CD-1P is one player that I can strongly recomend due to following reasons.

1. It reproduces the cymbals right, the impact of stick or the feathering of brush is clean and most importantly the ringing and decaying is more natural. (more in line with the sound of LP's)

2. This one doesn't spit out sibilant transients like some/most players that I have heard in this price bracket.

3. HDCD decoder makes noticeable difference when a HDCD is played, you hear natural sounding cellos and bass guitars.

4. Very authoritative low freq reproduction, plays Mahler's symphony wihtout loosing composure at the same time nuances of fingered aucustic bass is also maintained.

5. Both male and female vocals are played wihtout any chestiness or screeching
Manek
Inventar
#33 erstellt: 10. Jan 2006, 12:50
where would one find perreaux products sir ?
am very keen to listen to them. A friend of mine has a perreaux int amp and its a fine piece.

manek.
Amp_Nut
Inventar
#34 erstellt: 10. Jan 2006, 16:15
Perreaux products are available in Mumbai thru Nova Audio -26007700 26002012
Bob_Ludwig
Ist häufiger hier
#35 erstellt: 12. Jan 2006, 11:20

Amp_Nut schrieb:
Perreaux products are available in Mumbai thru Nova Audio -26007700 26002012


No more..............

Sushil gave up the distribution a long time back; maybe 2 years now.

He does Audio Analogue now !!

BOB
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