XRCDs for Sale

Hi Suhas,

Are these still available? If so I am interested in the Jheena Lodwicks one. Please let me know.

Deepak

For whatever its worth....

Jheena Lodwick - Feelings... Vol. 2 [JVC XRCD24-1009SA]

can be downloaded ( FLAC Files ) from :

http://www.avaxhome....c_xrcd24_1009sa.html

Do I suspect a sly GRIN on Amp Nut while he posted that Link.
Ha Ha Ha.
awesome
HerculePirate

I don't know about the down load site mentioned but it is Okay as long as such down loads are legal (means paid).

Jheena Lodwick must get paid for the music she produced and also for the efforts she had put down in learning, practicing and perfecting her skills.

Highly Questionable topic there Suhas.
Good luck with the sale though.
Regards
HerculePirate

FYI
Please also refer to a band called "Marillion" and album called "Marbles".
Very few bands/Individuals can demand the respect of fans to do that.
I am not aware of this Lady's repute.
Sorry for the Hijack.
Regards
HerculePirate

herculepirate schrieb:

Highly Questionable topic there Suhas. Good luck with the sale though. Regards HerculePirate

Well,it is now too late, those XRCD got SOLD looooooooooooooooooooooooong back.

And what highly questionable topic ? Music piracy? Stealing? Robbery? Pick pocketing?

Suhas,
My only concern is the Pricing of CD's.
Bands like Tool and Marillion make it a pleasure to own one of their Products.
Selling Products with an intent to extort is different and Selling music to reach out is different.
Congrats on the sale.
Regards
HP

herculepirate schrieb:

Suhas, My only concern is the Pricing of CD's. Bands like Tool and Marillion make it a pleasure to own one of their Products. Selling Products with an intent to extort is different and Selling music to reach out is different. Congrats on the sale. Regards HP

Extortion.....please explain sir !
The Jheena Lodwick cd costs 34.99 $ on ebay plus shipping. 800 bucks is quite decent.

[]wave.
I didnt mean to say anything about the sale of this particular post. No doubt its priced excellent.
But $ 35 price point is stupid.
Whoever has bought it from Suhas for Rs 800 is lucky.
Regards.
HerculePirate

herculepirate schrieb:

[]wave. I didnt mean to say anything about the sale of this particular post. No doubt its priced excellent. But $ 35 price point is stupid. Whoever has bought it from Suhas for Rs 800 is lucky. Regards. HerculePirate

Okay........
But XRCD's are priced like this because of low volume sales.

Amp_Nut schrieb:

For whatever its worth.... Jheena Lodwick - Feelings... Vol. 2 [JVC XRCD24-1009SA] can be downloaded ( FLAC Files ) from : http://www.avaxhome....c_xrcd24_1009sa.html

It's very doubtful if such a download will sound as good as a XRCD on a good CDP. And therefore I don't think it's worth spending the money.

herculepirate schrieb:

Suhas, My only concern is the Pricing of CD's. Bands like Tool and Marillion make it a pleasure to own one of their Products. Selling Products with an intent to extort is different and Selling music to reach out is different. Congrats on the sale. Regards HP

I am not clear whether you are talking about my sale prices or CD prices in general (that tempted you for illegal downloads). Anyway , XRCD recording is far better than standard Redbook CDs and that's why XRCDs are priced higher than standard CDs.

The XRCD's I sold were priced Rs 1700 each to buy a new. I sold them at 1/2 the price at Rs 800. All sold XRCDs were excellent as good as a fresh from the rack , the music lover who purchased those XRCDs had posted a feedback on www.hifivision.com , please have a look at it.

Somebody (on purpose?) posted a link of a (illegal) download of the same album (under the impression that my XRCDs are still unsold!), that's why I asked the question whether that is a legal download or what? Just to check what is the price for any such high quality legal downloads.

I buy legal only, 400+ legally purchased CDs are more than enough for my enjoyment, I don't steal music. Those who go criminal , let them go but my request is at least do not promote / support such illegal activities on public places like this forum. It is a shame that well educated (?), well placed people with resources that can set up a HiFI system costing more than Rs 500K are doing this.

Nothing against you Alywn , excluding this illegal download we are still friends , I believe.

But I have to confess that I have pre- Ordered CD's from Tool and Marillion at about the same price $ 35.
But it comes with an insane Artwork.
Marillion came with a whole metal box with more than 1200 photographs and your name mentioned as one of the contributors to the making of the album.
Howz that.
Regards
Alwyn

I buy legal only, 400+ legally purchased CDs are more than enough for my enjoyment, I don't steal music. Those who go criminal , let them go but my request is at least do not promote / support such illegal activities on public places like this forum. It is a shame that well educated (?), well placed people with resources that can set up a HiFI system costing more than Rs 500K are doing this.

I don't see any reason for you to get all hot and bothered.

You confirmed the sale of the Jheena Lodwick XRCD to me on (Jun 26. 2008, 16:11)and asked me to send you an "at par" cheque for Rs.850/-which I did promptly. (Jun 27. 2008, 05:29)You confirmed receipt of the cheque on June 30 morning(I am from Madras)

However after receiving the cheque, you expressed your inability to sell me the XRCD,and returned my cheque.

I assumed that you had changed your mind and had decided not to sell the XRCD.From the above posts I see that you have sold the XRCD to someone else,after confirming the sale to me and asking me to send you an "at par" cheque for the XRCD.

"It is a shame that well educated (?), well placed people with resources that can set up a HiFI system costing more than Rs 500K are doing this."

Rajiv

I am not clear whether you are talking about my sale prices or CD prices in general (that tempted you for illegal downloads).

[b]I have already cleared the air regarding this...I repeat the sale price is awesome compared to the list price...My point was regarding CD prices in general not Suhas pricing...if the music were up my alley I would have driven down to Suhas' place and raided the XRCD collection....Lets compare the CD's in general to a Pepsi/Cola drinks where production price is less than a rupee and when you see the list price...its annoying....Bands like TOOL, MARILLION, RADIOHEAD have redefined Music sales and sensibilities...[/b]

[b]I buy legal only, 400+ legally purchased CDs are more than enough for my enjoyment, I don't steal music. Those who go criminal , let them go but my request is at least do not promote / support such illegal activities on public places like this forum. [b]It is a shame [/b]that well educated [b](?)[/b], well placed people with resources that can set up a HiFI system costing more than Rs 500K are doing this.

Suhas, I too have always purchased CD's until I came across TOOL, MARILLION and RADIOHEAD who offered so much more than a digital disc...it was always a very personal experience to own any of their ART...
My conscience tells me to fight stupidity more than go along thieving saleman who offer lowest in terms of value.
TOOL has won best 'Album Artwork of the Year' for their consecutive releases LATERALUS and 10,000 DAYS.[/b]

Nothing against you Alywn , excluding this illegal download we are still friends , I believe.[/quote]

[b]Oh yeah, Of course ... This is an age old fight, I have no problems with you because you wanna sell your stuff.....How much more are you hiding...Get them all out...[/b]

Regards
Hercule Pirate

I have already cleared the air regarding this...I repeat the sale price is awesome compared to the list price...My point was regarding CD prices in general not Suhas pricing...if the music were up my alley I would have driven down to Suhas' place and raided the XRCD collection....Lets compare the CD's in general to a Pepsi/Cola drinks where production price is less than a rupee and when you see the list price...its annoying....Bands like TOOL, MARILLION, RADIOHEAD have redefined Music sales and sensibilities...

Suhas, I too have always purchased CD's until I came across TOOL, MARILLION and RADIOHEAD who offered so much more than a digital disc...it was always a very personal experience to own any of their ART...
My conscience tells me to fight stupidity more than go along thieving saleman who offer lowest in terms of value.
TOOL has won best 'Album Artwork of the Year' for their consecutive releases LATERALUS and 10,000 DAYS.
Lets not forget that Radiohead offered their Album 'IN RAINBOWS' for free or 'pay what you feel like'....I did pay for those downloads...Radical approach and great value gets my respect.

Oh yeah, Of course ... This is an age old fight, I have no problems with you because you wanna sell your stuff.....How much more are you hiding...Get them all out...

Regards
Hercule Pirate

G_S_Madhav said:

Somebody (on purpose?) posted a link of a (illegal) download of the same album (under the impression that my XRCDs are still unsold!), that's why I asked the question whether that is a legal download or what? Just to check what is the price for any such high quality legal downloads.

Suhas, that statement is malicious, and Factually untrue.

I have held my piece ... Till Now...
First lets get the facts straight :

You posted for sale :

3> All my Loving By Jheena Lodwick

I provided a link for:

Jheena Lodwick - Feelings... Vol. 2 [JVC XRCD24-1009SA]

NOT THE SAME ALBUM.


The reason that I quoted that link, is that there are TONS of XRCDs, Mobile Fidility and FIM CDs on tap at that site to download.

Each one here is (presumably) an adult, and needs to take their own call.

Some time ago, a memeber was curious to hear an XRCD. He wrote that on the forum. This site could give him a taste.





I also agree TOTALLY with goolimangala:

It's very doubtful if such a download will sound as good as a XRCD on a good CDP.

However, not everyone on this forum has a 'Good" CD player, and its arguable if the XRCD download would atleast sound better than a regular CD... atleast its unlikely to sound worse ... IMHO ofcourse !





Rajiv, I am glad that you posted :

You confirmed the sale of the Jheena Lodwick XRCD to me on (Jun 26. 2008, 16:11)and asked me to send you an "at par" cheque for Rs.850/-which I did promptly. (Jun 27. 2008, 05:29)You confirmed receipt of the cheque on June 30 morning(I am from Madras) However after receiving the cheque, you expressed your inability to sell me the XRCD,and returned my cheque. I assumed that you had changed your mind and had decided not to sell the XRCD.From the above posts I see that you have sold the XRCD to someone else,after confirming the sale to me and asking me to send you an "at par" cheque for the XRCD. "It is a shame that..............

I had a VERY SIMILAR Experience dealing with G_S_Madhav and I thought it was an aberration, so I just shut my self out.

Let me elaborate.

1. Members of the Forum will recall that when GS Madhav put up his first list, I replied I would take them all, as a lot.

2. Confirmed by his personal message (PM) dated 28th June :

So I confirm that all CDs from first list considered as SOLD to you.

, but then he came back to me saying that ( the cream of the lot, as far as I was concerned ) were sold out. I could ofcourse have the crumbs...

3. Freight : I found shipment charges un-necessary, since he lived in Pune, less than 2 Kms from where my Mother-in-law lived. Hence I requested if he would drop off ( the remaining Crumbs ) at her place, and collect the money.

In his PM to me on 28th June, he said :

I am Okay with your second option and will drop your CD at your Mother-in-law's place.

Vide his message to me dated 30th June he wrote :

Your Shipping Cost totals to: Rs 125

I felt I was aiming at a continiously moving target, and simply cancelled the deal.

I would personally speculate that Suhas prefers to sell the CDs locally... who would not.

But those options should be explored BEFORE putting stuff up on the forum for sale, and not pulling out / seliing locally after someone confirms their commitment to buy.

I hold no grudges... just that it did not work out. Only in this case, it seems to have happened to more than just me...

Rajiv schrieb:

I don't see any reason for you to get all hot and bothered. You confirmed the sale of the Jheena Lodwick XRCD to me on (Jun 26. 2008, 16:11)and asked me to send you an "at par" cheque for Rs.850/-which I did promptly. (Jun 27. 2008, 05:29)You confirmed receipt of the cheque on June 30 morning(I am from Madras) However after receiving the cheque, you expressed your inability to sell me the XRCD,and returned my cheque. I assumed that you had changed your mind and had decided not to sell the XRCD.From the above posts I see that you have sold the XRCD to someone else,after confirming the sale to me and asking me to send you an "at par" cheque for the XRCD. "It is a shame that well educated (?), well placed people with resources that can set up a HiFI system costing more than Rs 500K are doing this." Rajiv

Rajiv, you are mixing two different issues. What you said about your XRCD order is very correct , it indeed happened. But you forgot to mention that while returning the check I offered you some compenasation too. Yes, I offered you to refund the amount you paid on courier charges (Speed Post)as well as some more to cover any incidental charges you might had incurred. I think that was fair enough and far better than many business houses.

Now , allow me to tell you and many others following this thread, the reason as well as what happened behind the screen:

Those XRCDs and many other I sold then after were not mine but from my cousin's personal collection. I think this was made clear in the postings. Naturally my cousin was the decision maker and I was just providing the support , like checking each and every CD for any problems , then posting it on the forum/s , collecting payments, packing CDs, dispatching CDs etc.

XRCDs being first to go, my cousin was rather worried about whether those will get sold or not. The list was posted on two forums. One guy from the other forum responded and confirmed all three XRCDS in one go. Both me and my cousin were happy. But the guy didn't contact then after . My cousin got worried or rather became impatient,though I was telling him to hold on for a while.

In the mean time I recieved your mesage about one XRCD from the three posted. My cousin , thought not three but at least one XRCD will go , so he asked me to go ahead and confirm the sale of only one XRCD to you though I was insisting for waiting the first guy to either pay or decline.

While your check was in the mail , the first guy paid the money! Now what to do? Committments were given to two parties for the same XRCD!!! I adviced my cousine to buy the same title and fill both orders, indeed I tried but no luck , no where the same title was availbale for sale.

At this point , my cousin who was the owner (and final decision maker) of those XRCDs decided to go with the guy who paid for all three XRCDS, in fear that if he sells that one XRCD to you then the first guy might cancel the order (because he then won't be getting all three titles he asked for) and two XRCDS will remain unsold!

So he ordered me to cancel the deal with you and go with the other guy (buyer of all three XRCDs) . Which I did but the compensation thing was offered of my own from my own pocket.

Rajiv, I could have explained this to you that time also but you sounded quite upset then. I hope things are clear to you and all those following this thread.

And believe me , I sold my cousin's 187 CDs till date , I haven't made a singel paisa out of it. All money collected is deposited in my cousins's (in fact his father-in-laws' ) bank account.

You are talking about one stray incident buit there are at least half a dozen perosns who purchased CDs from me are quite happy and posted glowing feedback comments on the other forum. CD selling is not my business, I work in an IT company (India's Number 1) for my bread and butter and hold quite a senior position over there. Cheating / dishonesty in any manner is not in my blood. I will never do it and even my enemies (if any) will agree on it 100%.


The "It is a shame .......500K system..." statement was direted to those who steal music and further promote and support such activity , and certainly not towards you If you are not in that illegal download business then you should not get upset about it or rather be supporting my stand here. But unncessarily bringing and mixing some other unrelated issue you are indirectlly supporting those pirates.

I hope this is clear enough. For me the issue is closed.

The references to the 500K system seems to be directed to me.
Cadence VA1 + Cadence Amaya + Squeezebox 3
hmmm...

The illegal Pirates...
Thats me ... "The Hercule Pirate"

Ha
Regards
HP

I would like to point that the number of Hits or Views on the

"Good site for flac Downloads" links has been a whopping 1664.

One of the highest hits ever....HOT

How many of us have a UNLICENSED Windows operating system running here.

Regards

HP

Amp_Nut schrieb:

Let me elaborate. 1. Members of the Forum will recall that when GS Madhav put up his first list, I replied I would take them all, as a lot. 2. Confirmed by his personal message (PM) dated 28th June : So I confirm that all CDs from first list considered as SOLD to you. , but then he came back to me saying that ( the cream of the lot, as far as I was concerned ) were sold out. I could ofcourse have the crumbs... 3. Freight : I found shipment charges un-necessary, since he lived in Pune, less than 2 Kms from where my Mother-in-law lived. Hence I requested if he would drop off ( the remaining Crumbs ) at her place, and collect the money. In his PM to me on 28th June, he said : I am Okay with your second option and will drop your CD at your Mother-in-law's place. Vide his message to me dated 30th June he wrote : Your Shipping Cost totals to: Rs 125 I felt I was aiming at a continiously moving target, and simply cancelled the deal. I would personally speculate that Suhas prefers to sell the CDs locally... who would not. But those options should be explored BEFORE putting stuff up on the forum for sale, and not pulling out / seliing locally after someone confirms their commitment to buy. I hold no grudges... just that it did not work out. Only in this case, it seems to have happened to more than just me...

Amp_Nut ji you are also hiding something here.

The list was posted on two forum , This one and the hifivision.

I posted the list 30 odd titles, and left for office. In my offcie , for some strange reasons this German forum is blocked on our network (web chat category!) how ever I can access hifivision. So there was no way for me to check your posting on German forum till I reach home. In the mean time one guy on that other forum posted and confirmed most of the tiltes from your list.

I belive about the same time , Abhi_pani called me on my cell, (yes , he is having my cell number) and informed me about your posting. I remember I said to Abhi_Pani that I can't access German forum from office and I need to go home to check what Amp_nut had asked for .

That evening in fact I was very late that date. I reached home saw your post as well as your PM (Jun 27. 2008, 04:50 giving the list.)

I replied you back thr' PM (Jun 28. 2008, 07:51)

Quote:

Hi,

Sorry that I couldnt contact you yesterday as I was much occupied with office work.

Before your list came in ( in fact I checked it only last evening ) I sold some titles (yesterday morning itself, local cash and carry) so I can't fill in you list completly , however some titles are still avialable with me from your list, those are : ........

Unquote


Well, then you replied to this PM same day on Jun 28. 2008, 13:33

Quote:
Hi Sushas,

sad to know that I missed some CDs.

1. I will take whatever is left of the list I asked for.

2. I will also take any CDs that you recommend from the new list... please send me your suggestions, and I will confirm / revert on the same day.

.........
............

Please deliver them locally in Pune to my Mother-in-law. She lives Off Boat Club Road, near Tata Management Training Centre ( near Wadia college ).

Alternately, I have a close friend at Kalyani Nagar, behind Mc Donalds - just near the Kalyani Nagar bridge...



Unquote

SO Amp-Nut ji , you forgot to mention that your first list , that you posted in reply to my sale, was never confirmed by me , rather I clearly informed you that only some (8) Titles are available from your list.


Now look what happened to CD sale then after..........

I wrote you on Jun 28. 2008, 16:31

Quote:
Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

So I confirm that all CDs from first list considered as SOLD to you.

........
.......

Unquote


SO Amp_Nutji. What I confirmed was 8 CDs from the left over CDs that you agreed to purchase and NOT THE THE FIRST LIST ( the cream of the lot, as you said it) YOU POSTED ON THE FORUM .[/b]


On Jun 29. 2008, 16:16 I send you a PM.

[b]Quote:

Hi,

There is one error in the earlier list.
12The magic hour – Wynton Marsalis quartet 150(445)

can't be included sorry about that.

So here is your modified list:

1 The Best of Baurt Bacharach100 295
2 The very best of Herb Alpert100 295
8 Kind of Blue – Miles Davis 100 300
11 Blue Haze – Miles Davis100 295
13 12 Gardens Live (2 cd set) - Billy Joel100 399
23 Cresent : John Coltrane Quartet150 445
26 Sonny Side Up Sonny Rollins-Dizzy Gillespie 100 295


Total 7 CDs
Now please confirm your interest once again.


Now I would like to suggest you some more titles from my third list,


34 Music of the Deserts 125 325
........
.........



Unquote

Why that '12 The magic hour – Wynton Marsalis quartet 150(445)' dropped? No it was not sold to anybody else (prove that and win $1 million!) , but when I opened the CD jewel box to check the CD (It is always my practice to check each and every CD by playing it on system) to my surprize there was no CD inside!!! Just the cover. I searched here n there a lot but couldn'y locate that CD (it is still missing !) so I decided to drop that CD from List. That's why I said in that PM " Total 7 CDs
Now please confirm your interest once again"


You replied to this PM on Jun 30. 2008, 06:20


Quote:

Hi Suhas,

I will take only the ones already confirmed, and nothing else.

Please send me :

1. The amount due to you.

2. The name in which you want the DD.

3. The address to which I should send the DD.
Please also add a Tel number ( required by the Courier )

If you send me these details today, I will courier you the DD today itself.

Regards

Dinyar

Unquote


On Jun 30. 2008, 16:22 I confirmed those 7 CDs you selected , informed you about total price, shipping etc >

Quote:

Hi,

Fine , not an issue.

You have selected:

1The Best of Baurt Bacharach100(295)
2The very best of Herb Alpert100(295)
8Kind of Blue – Miles Davis 100(300)
11Blue Haze – Miles Davis 100 (295)
13 12 Gardens Live (2 cd set) - Billy Joel100(399)
23Cresent : John Coltrane Quartet150(445)
26Sonny Side Up Sonny Rollins-Dizzy Gillespie 100(295)


Total 7 albums. 12 Gardens Live is a 2 cd Album.

Your CD price totals to: Rs 750

Your Shipping Cost totals to: Rs 125

Your final total is: Rs 875

With this shipping charges that you are paying, you have a choice to get it shipped at your address or delivered to any local Pune City limit address.


Unquote

Now shipping charges here ...........

You suggested Kalyani Nagar or Boat club locations for delivery , both are 10 and 15 KM from my place of residence (Karve Nagar) and not 2-3 KM as you mentioned. , that is 20/30 KM two way. so what is wrong if I ask for petrol expenses for 20/30 KM of travel ? This sale was not a charity affair for me. If I sppend time and money in delivering CDs to location of your choice then I have full right to be compensated for it.


Now I stated waiting for your payment, in fact I packed your CDs and kept aside.

But there was no communication from you side!

So I sent a gentle reminder to you on: Jul 05. 2008, 15:10


Quote:

Hi,

I am waiting for your payment for CDs you are interested in. Please let me know whether you are interested in buying and when are you sending me the payment. Please reply me by Monday , otherwise will offer those CDs to someone else. Information regrding CDs, prices, artists, lables etc already communicated to you along with shipping cost details.

Regards

SUhas


Unquote

This was required because there were multiple requests for the titles that you reserved and agreed to buy.

Then you reply me back on : Jul 05. 2008, 20:19

Quote:

Hello Madhav,

You have been continiously changing goal posts / commitment.... atleast in my perception.

While Rs 825 is nothing that will break the bank, I feel uncomfortable about culminating this deal. ( actually opposed to it as a matter of principle. )

I wish you all the best.

Dinyar

Unquote


So who is wrong here.....................????

You asked 12 odd titles those are already sold to someone else. When this was made clear to you, you then agreed to buy what so ever is left. You selected 8 titles out the list , I confirmed all of them but unfortunately I found one CD is missing , I had only the cover. I informed that to you and requested you to confirm for balance 7 Cds. And you did confirm those CDs and agreed to pay including shipping charges (which were pretty reasonable for 7 CDs to ship to Mumbai or to be delivered to a place 15 KM my place)

And then all of a sudden you changes your mind for some phoney reason and called off the deal.

So people here on thsi forum, my sincere appleal is to go through the entire transaction and decide who is at fault.

herculepirate schrieb:

The references to the 500K system seems to be directed to me. Cadence VA1 + Cadence Amaya + Squeezebox 3 hmmm... The illegal Pirates...Thats me ... "The Hercule Pirate" Ha Regards HP

Nice One Sir !

I like your 'spirit'
Way to go !!

Madhav said :

Amp_Nut ji you are also hiding something here.

NO Sir ! THAT IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT & LIES

Thanks for ventilating the posts, forum members can now draw their own conclusions.

I would like to point out the following :

1.G_S_Madhav said:

The list was posted on two forum , This one and the hifivision. I posted the list 30 odd titles, and left for office. In my offcie , for some strange reasons this German forum is blocked on our network (web chat category!) how ever I can access hifivision. So there was no way for me to check your posting on German forum till I reach home. In the mean time one guy on that other forum posted and confirmed most of the tiltes from your list. I believe about the same time , Abhi_pani called me on my cell, (yes , he is having my cell number) and informed me about your posting. I remember I said to Abhi_Pani that I can't access German forum from office and I need to go home to check what Amp_nut had asked for . That evening in fact I was very late that date. I reached home saw your post as well as your PM (Jun 27. 2008, 04:50 giving the list.) I replied you back thr' PM (Jun 28. 2008, 07:51)

ALL THE ABOVE ARE / WERE UNKNOWN TO ME AND IF ANYTHING - YOU - HAVE BEEN HIDING ALL THE ABOVE DETAILS !

You NEVER mentioned:

a. That youi had also posted these items for sale on another forum.

2. MORE IMPORTANT: You never mentioned to me that you could not access this forum.

Please read your PMs to me that you have already ventilated in detail.

In fact in your PM to me you only wrote :

That evening in fact I was very late that date. I reached home saw your post as well as your PM (Jun 27. 2008, 04:50 giving the list.)

So your story of why you did not confirm to me regarding my purchase of ALL the CDs in the 1st List, is inconsistent.

In yr PM to me you said that you got home ( 1 or 2 days ? ) late. Today you claim you could not access this forum !



ANOTHER PROBABLE INCONSISTANCY :

In your posting yesterday, you say that

n the mean time one guy on that other forum posted and confirmed most of the tiltes from your list.

However in your PM ( which you have copied above ) to me you said :

I sold some titles (yesterday morning itself, local cash and carry)

So Who Is " hiding something here. " ?????


Regarding the 2 Kms distance, you told me on the phone that you lived near Alankar Cinema... near the station, and THAT is why you prefered to deliver to my Mother-In-Law rather than my fried in KalyaniNagar...


You did agree for delivery,

THEN you asked for Rs 125, and now you tell the forum :

so what is wrong if I ask for petrol expenses for 20/30 KM of travel ?

Geez ! I thought these were courier charges, not your personal petrol re-imbursement...


TO SUMMARISE MY PERSPECTIVE :


1. You put up 12 CDs for sale, in yr 1st List. I confirmed all 12.

2. You did not reply to my Forum posting and PM, but sold off the cream, locally, on Cash & Carry.

3. I agreed to take the remaining 8.

4. You knocked off 1 more CD from the list... reducing it to 7.

3. I STILL said I would take the lot, and you agreed to deliver it to a local address in Pune.

4. You the ask for Rs 125 delivery charges.

I just found the entire transaction disgusting and a waste of time to continue the correspondence..

I wrote :

You have been continiously changing goal posts / commitment.... atleast in my perception. While Rs 825 is nothing that will break the bank, I feel uncomfortable about culminating this deal. ( actually opposed to it as a matter of principle. )

herculepirate schrieb:

How many of us have a UNLICENSED Windows operating system running here. Regards HP

Sir,
G.S.M. must be in a Mac [leopard] & even his MS Office / Corel / Photoshop etc. etc. are all 'licensed' you can be 'sure' about that !!!

Amp_nut:

1>Why I need to tell you that I have posted this list on several forums , why I need to go and tell everybody that in my office I can't access the forum? It is a common practice for every IT company to block many sites such as yahoo, gmail, hotmail, Music, on line shopping, gambling, porn etc. Then why I need to mention that to you and anyody else. I posted on two forums for my convenience as well as for better reach. It was my choice. You too posted your For Sale on two forums recently.


2> Your first list was never confirmed by me and you too accepted this by saying "Sad, I missed some titels....I will take what so ever is left.."

3> I think you mixed 'Alankar Police chowky' and 'Alankar Talkies . How come I tell anybody that I stay near Alankar CInema' when I am not staying there. I stay near Alankar Police Chwoky and my address the same for last 3 years. So that was your misunderstanding at the first place ,It happens so accept that , no hard feelings from my side.

4> In no way, I can drop 7 CDs (costing some 700 bucks) at a 15 Km (30 Km two way) away place by spending 3 lit of petrol (my car gives me 10 KMPL and petrol is Rs 54 /lit) and 2 hours of time for free, It seems that you wanted CDs at 1/3 price and that too delivered for free!

5> What is the inconsistancy between this:
" the mean time one guy on that other forum posted and confirmed most of the tiltes from your list." AND "I sold some titles (yesterday morning itself, local cash and carry) " . There could be two different transactions involving two different persons! Had you thought of this probablity before putting forward such absurd remarks?
And why I need to furnish all my sales transactions to you ?

Did you tell anybody on this forum without asking about how much you paid for that power amp , pre amp and speakers you recently bought? It could be confidential and you thought it is unnecessary to disclose , isn't it ? Then how you expect me to tell all my transaction details to you like a running commentary?




To summarise again:

1> I never confirmed the original list from Amp_Nut
2> I confirmed only 8 CDs
3> Out of those 8 CDs confirmed I withdrew only 1 CD for a valid reason and that was communicated to AMp_Nut and his confirmation was saught.
4> Amp_NUt , misunderstood, Alnakar Cinema and Alanakar police chowky. Hearing or understanding problem.

5>My charges of Rs 125 for a 30 KM travel and 2 hous' of time. That was reasonable by all means.


Amp-Nut called off the deal just because of that Rs 125, I believe, he wanted a free delivery which was not possible given the throw away price sale. Period.




I believe the truth is in front of all.



Now for me the topic is closed.

bhagwan69 schrieb:

herculepirate schrieb: How many of us have a UNLICENSED Windows operating system running here. Regards HP Sir, G.S.M. must be in a Mac [leopard] & even his MS Office / Corel / Photoshop etc. etc. are all 'licensed' you can be 'sure' about that !!! 8)

Bhagwan, you are coreect on both these. I own an Apple iBook that came with all licenced software (2 DVD ROMs) that came with iBook. I have a payement reciept for the same.

My other machine is a DELL PC (with Bill and warranty) and that too came with official Win XP home edition preloaded and I have a official DELL System disc to restore my PC .

I don't use MS office, Photoshop or Coreldraw. I have a licencd copy of TurboCAD and Paint Shop Pro Anniversary edition. Instead of MS Office I use Openoffice on Winodws and Neo office on MAC both these software suites fall under under 'Open Software platform' where no licence is required.

Anyway, Bhagwan, thanks for the trust and confidence shown in me!!!!

Anyway, Bhagwan, thanks for the trust and confidence shown in me!!!!

Sir,

After I read what you had to write on another thread - I had to believe in you;
Very few persons I know that would not 'buy' a CD & spend that money on a 'child's eductation' & I have aplauded you for that 'noble gesture' !! Keep up the good work !!

p.s. I am not into music downloads & have no idea of how it works.
I do have a 'few' XRCD's myself - however I am not a 'fan' of the 'recording' !!!
Maybe I need buy some more 'FIM & LIM' to understand what is going on.....

That is because he has already 1k CDs waiting to be listened to And money to make this kind of investment in music! My entire collection accumulated over past 4-5 years is less than 400 CDs but I believe there are many other important priorities in my life than music! I feel myself fortunate to have resources to build a music system costing 150 K+ and accumulating music worth 100 K+ but not everybody is. I am helping an orphan kid (through a NGO) for last two years. I take care of his school fees , books and clothing and also contribute for expenditure towards food and shelter. Yes, I am buying a CD or two less per month (Rs 600~1000) but that helps an orphan kid to go to school. Smile on that kid's face and his soft 'Thank you' is the best ever DVD / CD I ever bought! For me this kind of satisfaction is far more important than having couple of more (dust gathering) CDs in my rack. Just my thoughts. SUhas

Suhas,

I also treated the matter as closed, and put this down as another unfortunate internet trading experience.

But your sanctimonious attitude in this and another thread (quoted above), and holier than thou posts, made me post my experience when dealing with you.

Blowing your own trumpet about your "good" deeds is in bad taste.The Good Book says "When you give to the poor, don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing."

Several of our forum members will be doing their bit for good causes in whatever way they can.It is not for us to judge if what they are doing is enough,nor is it our concern on how they choose to spend their money.

Regarding the XRCD transaction,you did not tell me that you had another offer when you asked me to send you the money.You,in fact led me to belive that the XRCD was mine by mentioning in your email, that I had made a good choice and that you have another personal copy of the same XRCD, and it was one of your favourites. Is it any wonder that I was annoyed when you said that you "cannot fill my order"?

By asking me to send you money for the XRCD even while you had confirmed the sale to another person is itself unethical in my book.


Rajiv

I think with Rajiv and Amp_Nut, I am dead sure that I haven’t cheated them or did anything unethical. I wrote lengthy messages with complete facts and figures clear enough to remove any doubts or misunderstanding. Readers are free to make any judgment of their own.

Now that I have made my point very clear .I stop here as I have no time and inclination to drag this into an unending argument.

I have reacted on this thread only when provoked Covertly or Overtly.

I am glad to see that this forum is now available to you during working hours / in office.

I too consider this matter closed.

Amp_Nut schrieb:

. I am glad to see that this forum is now available to you during working hours / in office. I too consider this matter closed. :L

What a point raised ...... How can you assume things so quickly like a kid ...

I can't access this forum from office but that doesn't mean I can't access it from else where.

Amp_Nutji, I can be at home even on a working day.. people call it as a Casual Leave. And at home I have a PC and internet connection too.

Bhagwan, you are coreect on both these. I own an Apple iBook that came with all licenced software (2 DVD ROMs) that came with iBook. I have a payement reciept for the same. My other machine is a DELL PC (with Bill and warranty) and that too came with official Win XP home edition preloaded and I have a official DELL System disc to restore my PC . I don't use MS office, Photoshop or Coreldraw. I have a licencd copy of TurboCAD and Paint Shop Pro Anniversary edition. Instead of MS Office I use Openoffice on Winodws and Neo office on MAC both these software suites fall under under 'Open Software platform' where no licence is required.

Ha. Suhas....Holy Crap. You have taken the most expensive route in the IT dept. Owning a Mac.
'Holier Than Thou'...Its true then
Bhagwan...You should have warned me about Suhas before.
I too am into 'Project Crayons' as well.
Rust In Peace
Regards
HP

Mac rocks! Windows sux!!!

Shahrukh schrieb:

Mac rocks! Windows sux!!! ;)

So very true. In more ways than one

Regards
SNV

I have recieved the two cds which I have ordered with Suhas. They are intact. Thanks. It was great dealing with you.

I had also ordered some 23 odd CDs and all of them have reached safely. More importantly the deal was pretty smooth.

EDIT : This was a supposed to be a PM Sorry

Thanks , Abhi_Pani and Square-Wave.

Hi All,

Just wanted to add my comments here -

I feel Suhas is taking unncessary flak and issues are being mixed up.

I have also bought about 25-30 CDs from Suhas and he came across an absolutely A++ seller. Everything was completely clean and above board and whatever promises he made, he scrupulousy stuck to. All the CDs were in the condition he mentioned and the packaging was bullet proof !!

We need more such sellers ... I would not hestitate to pick up anything he has to offer and which also interests me ..

Cheers
Raghu