tired of my sub

yo TJ.
how u doing dude.
well, i can easily relate to ur woes after listening to the onkyo sub myself. awful is all i can say.
and rightfully, so was the space sub.
u can get a decent sub for 20k but nothing earth shattering.
BTW see if u can drop by my place if u can. u can take a look at definitive tech sub that i have.
has a lot of punch(the american type of louspeakers seem to do very well for me).
for 20k u can forget velodye(atlest in India),HSu,PSb and all that stuff.
take a look at def tech, Wharfedale(the new sw150), polk, Sonodyne(have not heard them, but seems like most of the forum members like them).
i actually liked the ProFX sub(don't laugh). it performed way way above the KEF(atleast in HT mode, it blew away the Kef).

Ben

For the quality you want try 'Wilson Audio', easily under 20,000..

http://www.wilsonaudio.com

YEs abhi.
wilson audio is great.
i had no idea u that u get them here. if u can get them under 20k like abhi suggests u better have a look.
Cheers,
Ben

I was talking about $20,000....

I'm happy to spend 20k for sub and unlike Mr.Pani who suggested Wilson Audio for 20,000, can I ask him where is it available or does he get a special discount??.Sure I cannot afford it. But since you are so well learned and talk only about the top brands tell me what are your future hifi plans.what do u intend to buy so that members can atleast learn hifi from you.

benks will try yamaha, deftech and wharfedale.

Mr.Abhi pick up my sub I will give you a special discount and I will surely buy the $20k Wilson sub.

That would go above your head...

come on man abhi . i was actually shocked to see ur post that wilson was avialable for 20k.
i knew i was reading this wrong.
its of no use talking of top brands here unless u want to discuss abt the tech they use in their products.


so keep the wise cracks under control.
Ben

TJ,

try Polk subs mann they are really good ,priced at 9,700 for a 10" powrered sub and at 20K you'll have two subs with some money left for DVD's. .... and as i can see you have Onkyo surrounds and they match up quite good.

That would go above your head...

ya It would go above my head definetely...coz I would throw old sonodyne stuff above my head and out of the window...hehehehehe

Anyway Onkyo subs are crap....cant be bought for free even.........

Ya why dont you try my old Sonodyne speakers, that would still sound better than an Onkyo sub...I can give it to you on trial....

ya bought for free,then why don't u buy something before u talk. I will give it free to you so come home and pick em up. will also give u my old Philps power house.your kinda stuff .so enjoy..

BTW TJ why dont you catch hold of your good old Grey Market friends....they may infact get you a Wilson Audio also....

Still having a Power House....Poor guy... why dont you sell it to your GM friends, they can easily refurbish it into something like your Onkyo !!

Mr.Pani iam not soo rich to buy wilson audio nor iam crazy. but since u suggest it i will buy wilson from my GM friends and get u a pair of decent bookshelves from burma bazaar...happy.

ya powerhouse is retained to entertain people like you...so when u drop in for a listen don't forget to clap after the session...thats what guys like you normally do.. and can get you old sonodyne for 1 to 1 comparo.

hey TJ sonodyne is not bad, infact iam using a sonodyne int amp ..good sound man much better than Onkyo amps.nowhere close to other stuff but pretty good.Now will you both stop the duel.

Forget Burma Bazaar...todays hottest GM is National Market with TJ and friends Hot Onkyo subs....

Did you get your PowerHouse new or same old refurbished versions from your GM friends....Try Wilson Refurbished..may get it.

alright guys. that's abt all i can take.
i mean atleast if they were sensible jibes i would'nt mind having a good chuckle reading them but some of them are so stupid.
Ben

Ok guys,
Thats all from my side also...lets get on to solve TJ's query.
For 20k (INR) I can think of Polk, Sonodyne, Deftech, Wharfdale, Jamo and Acoustics Portrait.
Velodyne is available for around 24k.
I have not heard the Deftech and Polk but they seem to have got some good comments in this forum.
But I sincerely suggest you to check out Sonodyne if you are looking for Punch.

TROJAN_HORSE schrieb:

Tired of my Onkyo sub - no punch, suggest any good subs.max budget 20k.BTW selling my sub anyone interested P.S. Not interseted in Space or Torvin or other Uncle brands. I want quality sound and not local talent promotion.

completely agree on the Uncle brands promotion an i really dig the term

TJ, I was told by a dealer that in the budget area Yamaha YST subs are very very VFM. try auditioning them although have never heard them

My favourite is the REL Quake. tiny with a big sound. When I last heard it was around 28 K though but Worth the money as it is very musical as well .

no way u'll get REL for 28k.
in Dubai itself it was like 28k.
infact that was my first choice. maybe someday i'll sell my def tech and get myself a REL:D
Ben

Lithos SUB is 22k with a seperate PULZ amp.
Check out their website.
I heard a entry level Yamaha not much impressive.

Hi! TJ,
Just close ur eyes and buy a Velodyne which is available for Rs 25K. Period. (hear it before you buy it. Important that u like it first)
Rgds
Prithvi

Prithvi,
i heard the velodyne u are speaking of but it just doesn't have the power.
and it is an 8 inch driver and won't go low enough for movies.
now if we were talking abt the cht 10 or the cht12 then that would be another matter altogetehr.
but the one u said just did not get my pulse racing in the demo scenes.
CHeers,
Ben

The one that I saw at Music Ranch was with 10" driver and was retailing around 25k. Dont remember the model number.

well i heard them a long time back . i think the one u have heard is the VX 10. and if Prithvi is also referring the same then that is an excellent choice too.
just as long as it is not employed in a large room.
Cheers,
Ben

Decided on Polk audio, been there nice sound and build.

well I can design a sub which will blow off see the spcs of these subs are...


12 inch subwoofers with non pressed paper cones with power ratings of 300 RMS rated into 8 ohms
Each subwoofer is made up of very heavy Magnets like double stacked 155mm magnets with total thichness of double stack will be arround 50mm

The size of the magnet is little bit less than the velodyne SPLs.

The amplifier for this is purely made up of discrete components rather than class D amps whre ( used in VELOs) they are highly efficient but not as much clarity of discrete amps.
velos saves power by 50% than mine.

So my suboofer wht I design will be 4! yes four 12 inch subwoofer which is enclosed in a 6 foot height enclosure( just like wisdom audios LFE enclosure type ).
The amplifiers for these subwoofers are externally connected instead of connecting inside the sub because sub will create very heavy vibrations so the amp shouldnt be disturbed as well as the amps will be far far cool when they are out of the enclosure. Many manufacs will fit the amp inthe enclosure to reduce the costs.



I am recommended these subwoofers 2 in numbers.... means 8 12" drivers for a room of size 40ft by 50 ft. He wants hollywood soundeffects with earthshattering bass so i am recommending this to him.


More bass means what?

Higher SPL ? thats it? nope if u want to feel the deep bass from the movies then you need to have massive amounts of air to be driven in the room.

For him the current ratings only for the subwoofer will draw about 80 amperes!!!!!!!!!


But may cost just in Rs 70,000 range.

what do u love this kind of sub?

according to the calculations its crossing the 120db out of room if you take room gain into considerisation it will cross about 126 to 128db!!!! depending upon the placement

Mate 70k is way above my budget. at 20k I have not many choices. as i liked the Polk audio sub at 9.7 k , will buy 2 each with 10" driver and 50 watt amp.enough to hear arnold fart his harley out of the tunnel.

remember one thing trojan 12 inch subwoofer will sound far better than a 10 inch... if u want fast sub if u have enough technological knoledge ... any driver with low vc inductance will sound fast.... very fast... so see...

first tell me your taste.. iwill suggest the sub...for some little bit more pirce may be...

I think we definitely can do without Blatant marketing in this forum.

please us a PM in case u want to do so.

arj wrote :

think we definitely can do without Blatant marketing in this forum. please us a PM in case u want to do so.

If this is a problem then why did you post a topic that u were to sell your sound boxes. You had to PM all about it.Now don't be too frenchy. Listen mate he wants to suggest something and lets see what he wants to$$.